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AIBU?

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to ask how you discovered your 2 year old was on the spectrum?

53 replies

livvielife · 31/05/2014 22:11

My dd is almost 2 and I think she's showing autistic traits. I've worked with autistic children briefly, but they were several years older, so I'm not sure if I'm misinterpreting things that may be normal toddler behaviour. Here's a few examples that concern me:

She has two words only. One is mama that she repeats often but sometimes randomly rather than in relation to me, the other is yeah which she says hundreds of times per day. She doesn't repeat speech or try to.

She eats very few foods. She'll rarely try anything new but if she does and likes it she'll want that constantly for weeks, then it'll change to a different food.

She cannot stand physical contact or lack of personal space from anyone but me. Today we were at mils and dd was sitting on the worksurface a foot away from me having a snack while I washed up. Dd saw mil coming towards her and was whimpering and flapping because she thought mil would pick her up, as mil got closer and I was trying to dry my hands it looked as though dd would rather fall off the work surface rather than mil pick her up Sad Even if someone touches her arm she screams and has never really been held by anyone but dp or I as she gets absolutely hysterical and thrashes around so much they could drop her.

She develops fears of random things such as leaves, sand, grass etc and can't abide being near them or even seeing them in a book then after a few weeks the fear will change.

I could go on but I'd be really interested to hear others experiences and opinions if you'd be kind enough to share/help.

OP posts:
YoureBeingASillyBilly · 01/06/2014 01:41
Hmm

Ive hidden the behaviour and development topic, not anything to do with disabilities Confused

LayMeDown · 01/06/2014 01:42

So not allowed discuss disability or behavioural problems in AIBU? Well that's news to me. AIBU is all about random topics. You don't get to decide what is discussed. If you don't like the thread don't comment on it and go find something else. There is plenty on here.
And the traffic is not pointless as a reason. AIBU generally generates a lot more comments and diverse experiences. Other topics you could post tonight and not get a response until tomorrow afternoon, and then only a handful. Here you will get a response and a lot of different types which is helpful especially in this particular situation since the experiences on the spectrum can be very varied.

YoureBeingASillyBilly · 01/06/2014 01:46

Oh FGS i would have asked the same question if OP had asked WSBU to ask what you thought of her dress! This is nothing to do with not being allowed to discuss disabilities. It's to do with people using AIBU for things that clearly arent an AIBU.

FidelineandFumblin · 01/06/2014 01:48

There is also an 'AIBU...To have called the police' live thread running at this very moment about a scenario where the OP's neighbour has just tried to break into her house. Arguably even less of a valid AIBU (of course shes not BU) But it would be bloody crass to object as clearly she is distressed & posting for traffic.

I really don't understand the pedantry.

LayMeDown · 01/06/2014 01:50

Well I see loads of AIBU structured this way and I've never seen you pulling an OP up on it before Silly but maybe I missed it. Why don't you raise this abuse of AIBU with MNHQ if it bothers you so much, and just leave a worried mother to get support from the rest of us?

YoureBeingASillyBilly · 01/06/2014 01:53

Apologies for not seeing every single thread posted on AIBU, i really should give up RL interactions and focus solely on MN.

I have raised it with HQ in the past and contributed to other threads that have raised it. MN being such a huge forum now means that new people join all the time and wont have seen previous threads discussing this issue.

LayMeDown · 01/06/2014 02:02

Well you can rest easy knowing MNHQ are aware of your concerns about people using the AIBU topic incorrectly (as far as you are concerned). However since they have not seen fit to implement any rules on who can post here and how, I don't think it's your place to go around vigilante style ticking off people who aren't conforming to your rules.
It was clear from the OP title what this thread was about, I m struggling to see why you clicked into it at all tbh, much less why you commented. The only effect of your comments would be to upset a clearly already anxious mother. Surely this would not have been your intention?
Anyway we have probably derailed enough. OP hope that some of this thread has been useful to you.

YoureBeingASillyBilly · 01/06/2014 02:10

I don't think it's your place to go around vigilante style ticking off people

That's where you're wrong. It's all of our jobs. It takes a village to raise a, er ... forum. Or something. Wink

Anyway, i'll leave you hippies to it. RL insists on interfering with my vigilantism once more.

PrincessBabyCat · 01/06/2014 03:26

:)

to ask how you discovered your 2 year old was on the spectrum?
PrincessBabyCat · 01/06/2014 03:37

Let's see... I had some weird quirks and I wasn't on the spectrum

  • Didn't smile until 4 months
  • Hated being held
  • HATED being upside down
  • Sensory issues: Panicked at loud noises, liked scalding hot water
  • Had to be taught how to play with my toys, otherwise I'd just pose them and set them up

But I do have some LD's so, if your child is quirky it could be something to at least look into.

In anycase early intervention is key so they get help early. :)

TiffanyToothache · 01/06/2014 10:13

Just came back to add that age 2 and 3 were the the hardest with my autistic son. He couldn't communicate then, we didn't understand him, or how to help him, as we do now.

This morning my nearly 7 year old woke me by getting into my bed, cuddling me, saying 'Good morning Mrs Lovely Beautiful', telling me that he loves me, and is now successfully arguing with his younger brother that what appeared to be a misdemeanour on his part was within the rules Grin It was too he's found a loophole

RazzleDazzleEm · 01/06/2014 11:36

Yes because it's a really urgent question that needed immediate answers and wouldnt possibly have gotten those same answers in the behaviour/development topic when more people were around tomorrow daytime

I have been told off for posting here there and everywhere I will get same responses here there and everywhere.

NO, bull shit. the main traffic areas are chat and AIBU.
I post in say, money and get two answers that are good, post in chat or AIBU and get loads of great responses to give me the info I need.
People who post can be delicate and really worrid, MN is a supporting website for parents so go and get something better to do silly.

And leave her alone. FFS x 100000000000. With bells on.

RazzleDazzleEm · 01/06/2014 11:38

It was clear from the OP title what this thread was about, I m struggling to see why you clicked into it at all tbh, much less why you commented. The only effect of your comments would be to upset a clearly already anxious mother

As the over all ethos of this site is help...and this is the mother of a child who is not hitting mile stones, which side do you think MN will come down on....I am guessing at the worrid mothers side.

I think MN need to control people like you silly I really do.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 01/06/2014 11:44

Dd had loads of words at 2 and perfectly clear diction
She could sing nursery rhymes perfectly and knew shapes and numbers. In hindsight she didn't interact like other children then and her joint attention was poor but we just thought she was gifted. So did HV at her 2 year chat.

This pride bit us on the bum as now she is non verbal at 7.5, in nappies and at SLD school.

She regressed at 2.10. Overnight. Stated pronouncing everything wrong then couldn't speak. Started spinning and lost interest in interaction.

Now she is very interactive but has autism.

TheIronGnome · 01/06/2014 11:55

Wow! Fanjo! That must have been such a shock! I've never heard of such a late regression- it's normally about the 18m mark, hense why the link was to the MMR.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 01/06/2014 12:10

Yes it was pretty terrible.

Neurologists hadnt come across it either so we had all sorts of tests.

TheIronGnome · 01/06/2014 12:12
Thanks
fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 01/06/2014 12:16

Thanks.

We have come to terms with new DD now. Mostly.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 01/06/2014 12:16

Thanks.

We have come to terms with new DD now. Mostly.

TheIronGnome · 01/06/2014 12:18

I have worked a lot with severely Autistic children and always feel for the parents, it must be such a challenge- and I'm trying to not sound patronising!

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 01/06/2014 12:25

Yes it definitely can be.

NeverTalksToStrangers · 01/06/2014 12:52

My ds1 isn't on the spectrum but when he was around the 2 mark I googled 'autism symptoms' repeatedly as he had certain traits. He would line toys up with incredible flair and neatness (we had a good few "you have to come and see what he's done now" moments), when he did speak he would make me repeat what he said a few times or he would say it repeatedly. The thing that reassured me though was that he was unbelievably friendly, affectionate and loved company.

He's 5 now and is doing very well. He is a bit ocd about his possessions (freaks out if his little brother goes near certain things) and has several of them on display (not to be moved) but that's just him. He looks after his things.

Goldmandra · 01/06/2014 13:02

it must be such a challenge

Having worked with children and young people with disabilities before having two children of my own with AS, I can honestly say that I had no idea what the parents went through.

I also think a lot of professionals focus so hard on the child that they forget the horrendous experience that the parent could be going through, especially in the early days, and the depth of the emotions involved.

It doesn't sound patronising that you try to remain aware of the challenges to the parents, Gnome. I wish more people did.

RazzleDazzleEm · 01/06/2014 13:09

Is spinning in general a sign of autism>? my DD started spin and we thought it was cute Confused not excessively just at the same time every night for a little.

She understands when we are going out, and seems to understand more than she speaks. She speaks nothing, sorry to hijack...should I go to HV?
Or doc?

She does Rar lion noise for all animals now apart from snake, is there anything we can do to see if she has autistic traights?most of her friends bar one, can all speak very very well....red bouncy ball etc mine cant say ball...

she does bring toys to me to play with her, she can copy me on a key board if I use my finger she will, she waves bye bye, if I say well done she claps....

she is very shy of other people now....at first....but I wouldnt say she is timid...

Goldmandra · 01/06/2014 13:26

Is spinning in general a sign of autism

There are lots of behaviours which are problematic in children with ASD because they are taken to extremes and affect their quality of live but are also common in NT children.

Most children go through a period of spinning lots. It's a new and exciting sensation and they enjoy exploring and experimenting with it. It is quite common in children with ASD because it gives quite a strong sensory input and can be used as a coping mechanism for dealing with stress.

Only you know the levels of the behaviour you're concerned about in your DD so trust your judgement. If you feel that she needs assessment, go to your GP and ask for a referral to whoever does neurodevelopmental assessments in your area.