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aibu about my father (long)

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daylightornot · 30/05/2014 22:29

I have never discussed this with anyone in real life because I am ashamed/embarrassed. It is an issue I think about daily, and I would very much appreciate some honest reactions. I suspect I am BU, and feel very guilty/petty about being unable to change my feelings about this.

I am 35. My father and I have very little contact, and other people in the family believe this is because I am BU about my father's decision to date after my mum died when I was 22. This is NOT TRUE. My father changed almost overnight when Mum died, and pushed me away/distanced himself almost immediately back then. It hurt, but I have tried and tried (and still try) to keep in touch with him: it was his decision to abruptly stop phoning me and take himself out of my life back then. Now we see each other only when I return to his village to visit my grandfather (his father), who always pleads with my father to come over for lunch/dinner to see me, which is very awkward because my grandfather is a lovely man and his heart is broken by my dad's new persona (dad has also emotionally distanced himself from my grandfather, who now feels uncomfortable visiting my dad's house 40 minutes from him because my dad's new wifewho I have never been invited to meet!acts as if she does not want my grandfather in their house. My grandfather and grandmotherwho is now deadused to drop in at the family house almost every day when my mum was alive, and they were very much a part of our life as I grew up). But I still love my dad and still keep hoping that he will decide he wants to be part of his "old" family once again. I have NEVER forgotten to send him a present/email on his birthday/Christmas/Father's Day (he will not give me his mobile number, and avoids replying to requests for it, and he has cut off the landline at his house, so we are email only pretty much). The last time I visited his home was when I was 23; he had a live-in girlfriend at the time who took offense that I cried on Christmas Day and kept bringing up my mum with my brothers in front of her (it was our first Christmas without Mum): my dad had told me then that I was not welcome in his home if I could not make his significant other welcome. I never felt comfortable going back, and he never asked me back. But as I said, I have NOT willingly distanced myself from him and still remain hopeful he'll change back; it hurts when other family members tell me that they are surprised I "cut off" my dad. Here's the other issue to this, about which I AM VERY angry, and wonder if ABU about:

We had a comfortable middle class life when I was a child (my dad's financial status IS relevant here). When I was 18, my father's American dentist friend convinced my parents that I should have porcelain veneers on my (perfectly fine) teeth, which were not absolutely American-straight. I did NOT want this and cried a lot about it, but I was a people-pleaser then: I had always done what my parents told me, and spent a lot of energy being the perfect daughter/student/exactly what was expected of me. I went along with it after my parents "insisted". During a university break, I had the procedure, which back then consisted of the dentist grinding a huge amount of enamel from 6 of my front teeth (think to a Gollum-like degree), which was very painful. Then, after almost two weeks, the new veneers were glued to the stubs left behind. It DID look great, but:

Those veneers are not meant to last a lifetime. They look pretty horrible now. I cannot afford to replace them; I am a teacher and that kind of cosmetic thing is well beyond my budget with my other family obligations. In my late 20s, when the veneers began showing their damage, I was heartbroken and attempted to speak to my dad about it. I think I might BU in having asked him then to help me replace them? Maybe I was very childish/emotional in my approach to him about this: I am a teacher, and I died/still die a little each time a stroppy teen comments about my horrible teeth. My dad always completely evaded the issue when I emailed him about this (no, I do not have my own father's mobile number, as he has always avoided my repeated requests for it over the years via email). So, yeah, I am very, very angry with my dad about this issue mostly: he had always emphasized my appearance as a child/teen, which is partly how he had forced me into submitting to this horrible cosmetic mishap, and when I think back to how he had always warned me about my weight (I was not fat, but his comments about weight/fat women when I was a teen also resulted on some intense food issues). He used to tell me he was "proud" of me for being so pretty when I was a teen, and remark on my friends who he felt were overweight, etc. This sort of emphasis on appearance when I was a child/teen has undoubtedly contributed to the heartache and shame I feel now about my hideous teeth, and I am so very angry at him for not fixing my veneers for me now, but then again, I am 35, so do I really have the right to be so angry? After all, when the veneers were done years ago, my dad surely expected me to grow up to have the financial means for their upkeep, and should a parent be expected to help in upkeep of their adult child's cosmetic dentistry if the parent forced the child to get said dentistry as a teen? I just don't know. My birthday was two weeks ago, and my dad had actually sent an email the week before the birthday in which he casually mentioned he was going golfing with his dentist friend. I KNOW I was BU when I snapped back an email reply saying it made me feel angry that he mentioned this man to me (I also blame the dentist friend), and then writing that my dad should think about how his life would have been different if someone had forced him to have this done to his teeth when he was a teen and he had gone through his 20s with the crumbling, hideous results. He never replied to the email, and didn't email me on my birthday a week later, so I know he feels I am BU at mentioning this still. I felt like such a loser on my 35th birthday to think about all this, and I wonder if I am childish and spiteful for being angry about the teeth issue, or for wanting/expecting my dad to pay to have them fixed.

So, am I BU?

OP posts:
wheresthelight · 30/05/2014 22:43

Sorry I have no advice but didn't want to read and run.

Fwiw I would tell the family members making comments what the truth is and leave it at that.

JustWonderingAbout · 30/05/2014 22:48

About your teeth... no!
In fact, I don't think you're being unreasonable about anything.
I feel for you. ;(

PrincessBabyCat · 30/05/2014 23:08

Ick. You could have had braces to straighten your teeth. You don't need veneers unless they were severe. Sad

I have a fake front tooth that needs to be replaced with a better cap. I've been putting it off for too long.

How much will it cost to have it replaced? Do you have insurance that can cover it? If you make a certain amount can gov benefits help you get them replaced?

How bad are they? Like blackening? Or just icky and yellow? You could get a bleaching maybe if they're just stained for now.

Unfortunately, at 18 you were an adult. Your dad is terrible for pressuring you, but you ultimately made the final choice. It's just one of those really shitty lessons not to cave into pressure.

PinkyHasNoEars · 30/05/2014 23:12

I'm really sorry that you're having to deal with this because, apart from anything else, it sounds as though you are, literally, faced with your family past every time you look in the mirror. That sounds really hard.

I think you probably need to accept that your dad is not part of your solution - although I know that is easier to type than to do. I don't think he will be any of the things you need him to be. I don't think he will take responsbility for any of the situations he exercised power over in the past.

Which means you need to find your own solutions in the present. Firstly I think that means recognsiing that you are not childish and stupid and secondly, I think that means finding some way of taking all the power for yourself. I don't know anything at all about cosmetic dentistry - have you spoken to your dentist about how bad your situation needs to be before you can have help?

daylightornot · 30/05/2014 23:35

Thanks for the input!

I really was a stupid 18 year old, and very much a "child" then: I did whatever my parents/teachers/professors wanted me to do and tried hard to please everyone. It was never actually explained to me that the veneers would need replaced ever, and even if it had been explained, I'm not sure I had enough sense of what money meant to have understood. My parents used to have their horses' teeth looked after once a year (I have no idea how much that costs)!

I did have braces as a young teen for a year, Princess, and the results were pretty good, but not the perfect "Hollywood smile" the dentist promised my parents. Now the veneers are very worn, discolored, and two are chipped, and also normal "whitening" toothpastes do not whiten veneers (I learned the hard way that they actually can cause discoloration where the veneer meets the gum line). I overheard my colleagues in the staff room talking about my "bulimia". Someone was saying quite snidely that they could not believe I didn't realize my teeth were "grey and melting" from my "vomiting habits". I have never been bulimic, but that should give you an idea of how bad my teeth look now.

But unless the veneers actually fall off, I can't get anything done on insurance unless I pay because they are "functional" (just really, really ugly). My dentist told me though, that this early form of veneers means that large amount of enamel ground off "compromises" the original tooth structure, so he's not even sure if all of the teeth can be crowned/capped when the veneers finally break down completely. I might actually have to have some of them OUT at some point, as this and prostheses are less expensive and what is likely to be offered or covered.

I know this is a "first world" problem. I'm so ashamed of myself, and of how I look. I know I am shallow. I feel so depressed that no matter what I do to look good, it all disappears when I open my mouth.

My mum would be so sad to see my teeth now.

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HauntedNoddyCar · 30/05/2014 23:50

But your mum was as I read your op, involved in you having the treatment?

I think your father has behaved appallingly and you are absolutely justified in feeling really let down and lost. It does though seem as if your whole image, particularly your teeth, is the mirror to the problem relationship. Your mum is exonerated in your emotions because her death was the point at which things changed.

I don't think the teeth are the main problem. You could investigate claiming damages against the dentist perhaps? You cannot fix how your father behaves. You can and should seek help to understand what they did to disempower you as an adult. :(

feathermucker · 30/05/2014 23:58

Bless you.

Maybe post in relationships for advice. Sorry I have no real advice, but I wish you love and comfort xxx

bauhausfan · 31/05/2014 21:29

Could you pay for dental implants on a credit card then pay it off. At least that would be the teeth problem sorted. As for your dad, he sounds like an asshole. Mine is too so I know what you are feeling :( I've gone no contact with my parents as they really treated me like crap. I had psychotherapy on the NHS to help with that decision. Good luck xxx

JustWonderingAbout · 31/05/2014 23:31

Horrendous- to overhear bulimia crap. Awful

lornemalvo · 31/05/2014 23:48

Oh no. You are not being unreasonable and you are not shallow. Could you see about taking a loan or getting the money you need added to your mortgage?

I agree that your father should be helping you with the upkeep of your veneers.

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