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To ask my neighbour about England flag bunting?

395 replies

nuffinthemule · 30/05/2014 16:12

My neighbour is outside on a ladder attaching England-flag bunting to the lampost outside his house (on the pavement). Is there a sport-related reason for hanging bunting this weekend that I have forgotten about or am I right to be slightly wtf? We live in a very multicultural area and I think it looks a bit aggressive and unwelcoming, although I accept it might not have been his intention. I know the neighbour to say hello to only and although he's always been reasonably friendly I have tbh been keeping a bit of distance as I know other neighbours have fallen out with him. Would you ask him why he is hanging it, do you think? Or am I being paranoid? And if you agree it is a bit dodgy how do I get him to take it down?

OP posts:
squoosh · 30/05/2014 21:06

Do other countries hang bunting? Bunting strikes me as being very English. Like giant vegetable competitions.

WorraLiberty · 30/05/2014 21:08

I don't need to look out of my window to remember I live in the UK. If some of you do, I suggest you consult with your doctor

Everyone patriotic person in the world knows which country they live in

Flying a flag is a display of patriotism...not a sign they need to see a doctor.

WorraLiberty · 30/05/2014 21:08

*Every

AnyFucker · 30/05/2014 21:08

and tattoos of your children's name on your arm, or your neck

ExitPursuedByABear · 30/05/2014 21:09

Oh I do love a vegetable comp. Very English

Impatientismymiddlename · 30/05/2014 21:09

When I did a 6 month work placement whilst being a IMO student my placement allocation supervisor from unit actually questioned my placement agency about the suitability of my placement based on a significant number of st George flags hanging from various houses in the area. The agency admitted that the area did have a recognised problem with racism and some known EDL supporters and that several addresses were flagged as 'not suitable for ethnic minority workers to visit'. The placement supervisor was neither racist nor judgemental, he was just using his knowledge of the NF and EDL and their use of the flag to make a risk assessment.

squoosh · 30/05/2014 21:09

When I was little I had a Vatican flag up in my bedroom. I thought the yellow and white were pretty together. Oh dear.

That's been the extent of my flag displaying career.

Shallishanti · 30/05/2014 21:09

If it helps Sophie I'm white and it makes me feel uncomfortable too. It's the history of what people have done with the flag. It's all very well saying reclaim it, but unless there's an actual campaign to do that, how are you to tell the racist bigots from the patriotic sports fans?

OnIlkleyMoorBahTwat · 30/05/2014 21:10

For clarity, I do know that Northern Irish people are not British (I think - genuinely sorry - my ignorance on the technicalities of definitions is not intended to offend anyone).

I once tried to look up the definition of 'Europe' and found a wonderfully complicated venn diagramm with about 10 different definitions Grin.

Impatientismymiddlename · 30/05/2014 21:10

Uni, not IMO. bloody autocorrect.

ExitPursuedByABear · 30/05/2014 21:12

I often wonder about the credibility of other countries. Stuff I have heard on the radio today has made me weep. And be bloody glad to be English.

MmeLindor · 30/05/2014 21:12

It is a shame that so many people are unable to read what the OP wrote.

She did not say she was offended by it, she said

We live in a very multicultural area and I think it looks a bit aggressive and unwelcoming, although I accept it might not have been his intention

If I were to go to a house that had the English flag (or any flag) flying, outwith sporting events, I would be more cautious about the inhabitants. Not because I am offended, or anti-English, but because it has been hijacked by a certain type.

No, I don't think it is fair, or right, and I can understand people wanting to reclaim the flag.

vitaminz · 30/05/2014 21:15

Just curious. If your neighbour was of Pakistani origin and he was hanging bunting with Pakistani flags would you feel the same (that it was aggressive and unwelcoming)?

SconeRhymesWithGone · 30/05/2014 21:15

Alexander Graham Bell, inventor of the telephone, was a Scotsman who emigrated and became an American citizen. He spent time in Canada too. So three countries can claim him. Smile

AnyFucker · 30/05/2014 21:17

Vit, ordinary Pakistani families don't tend to hang flags about their house though

sarinka · 30/05/2014 21:17

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NoArmaniNoPunani · 30/05/2014 21:18

Don't worry, if it's to do with the World Cup it won't be up for long

ExitPursuedByABear · 30/05/2014 21:19

Really AnyF?

AnyFucker · 30/05/2014 21:19

This is true Smile

MyUsernameIsPants · 30/05/2014 21:19

The only time I've seen a mass display of the St George cross was in a Gatecrasher rave many years ago when England beat Germany.

AFAIK all was happy and no problems. Best rave I've ever been to.

Of course, the fact that every person there was off their tits on drugs had nothing to do with it. Definitely not

AnyFucker · 30/05/2014 21:20

Exit, I live very close by large Pakistani communities. They might hang England flags, but not Pakistani ones.

ExitPursuedByABear · 30/05/2014 21:22

Me too AnyF. And they do.

I see your flag and raise you.

AnyFucker · 30/05/2014 21:28

I don't raise a flag Confused Smile

What are we raising ? I'll raise a Wine to England's half decent effort in the Friendly with Peru. How about that ?

ExitPursuedByABear · 30/05/2014 21:30

I don't do football. I meant raise as in a card game.

No offence meant.

OnIlkleyMoorBahTwat · 30/05/2014 21:30

I drive past a house daily that has the Pakistani flag as part of the design on it's metal gates.

It is however the only one I have ever noticed despite living in the middle of one of the largest Pakistani populations in northern England.

Most people identify with more than one country. Any English person that emigrates to Spain/Australia/the US/anywhere else, is likely to keep up with news/sports/whatever else they are interested in from their home country.

Totally expected and just the same to expect anyone where they or their parents/grandparents come from another country might be legitmally interested in the fate of the teams from more than one country.

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