to think that job ads should stop all the numpty jargon and put a simple job title?

[LoofahVanDross]

Reading through various job websites as my dc are now of that age, and what a load of complete nonsense they are these days.

Just go back to looking for an 'office clerk' a 'shop assistant' 'cleaner' whatever.

It can take ages to work out what they actually mean.

And as for the job description, don't even go there!
Rant over.

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YANBU. Fucking 'barista'. Took me ages to work out that a friend of a friend served coffee for a living rather than working at a high level in court!

oh glad someone agrees with me. It is really begininng to piss me off. It makes job hunting such bloody hard work.

When I were a youngun, it was simple. You looked for secretary for example. Now the title has at least 8 words, most of which are bollocks and you sit for half hour trying to figure it out.

Sometimes you are right - not always. Do you have an example?

As jobs have to be advertised externally and CANNOT by law be sexist/racist/ageist, (happily), or seem to be, they tie themselves in knots trying to describe all the details of a job to every possible candidate in the most neutral language. I think that's half the problem.

In the "Old Days" it would have been; "Fred's leaving - who do you think would be the best replacement?"

YANBU and I hate when salary bracket is not mentioned.

The one that always gets me is Business Development Manager = telesales!

Well there are lots of examples muddled up in my head because I spent most of yesterday looking for jobs to suit an 18 year old school leaver with A levels (hopefully)!

I mean, everybody is an 'executive' something or other. Doesn't matter if you have never worked before, but the job has exectuive in the title. I missed out half of those because to me an executive is someone with experience and a high level position.

Nobody is a salesperson. They are 'Field Sales Executives'.

You are no longer a 'shop assistant', you are a member of a 'dynamic sales team' with 'proven track record' rather than experience.

I just feel it would simplify the hunt if it was clear what the job was.

Is this for the benefit of the company i.e. to make it sound 'the place to be', or to make the person applying think they are going for some fantastic position?

DontWorry - absolutely spot on with your example. I saw lots of those yesterday!!

I hate those misleading job titles

Customer Service Facilitator - Telephonist/Receptionist
Communications Assistant - Telephonist/Receptionist
Front Desk Operatiive - Telephonist/Receptionist
Customer Location Executive - Telephonist/Receptionist

That is it Summerbreezing.

Wonder what is going on in the heads of these people writing the ads??

And what is the point, more to the point?

I pride myself on being pretty ok at cryptic crosswords in the broadsheets, but this is way beyond me!!

refuse relocator=bin man

The ones that get me are nanny adverts. If I'm looking for a job, I see nanny, nanny/housekeeper, au pair, mothers help, maternity nurse, maybe tutor or special needs nanny. All fair, all pertaining to the job role. Then you see ones like 'new best friend needed!!!' Or 'cuddles and curls, it's fun with all girls!' And other bollocks. I hate how demeaning they are! I'm an employee, a professional. Grr. If you are looking for something specific- 'must be physically fit, house has five stories', or a certain passport is needed for travel, fine. There's no need to say 'Mary Poppins needed!!!' No one is Mary Poppins. It's annoying.

I can see a prime example right now to the right of this very page.

The 3rd job down. Look at title, read first 2 paras and then tell me what it is they are looking for.

They usually turn out to be minimum wage jobs as well with very little benefits, just a glamorous job title.

Just thinking about this over a cup of coffee. Has your job title changed over the years, yet you are still doing the same job?

Yup - mine's gone from Analyst (generic but true) to Business Analyst, to Product Analyst, to Product Manager. All the same job, no increase in responsibility or wage.
Cynically I think it's to cover up for "redundancies" where the role is said to no longer exist. It does, and it needs a replacement, but they have to have a different title.

Everyone's a flipping practitionerThese days

I'm a communications specialist practitioner:ie a phone monkey