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To think posting videos of child abuse is not the same as a 'raising awareness' campaign?

22 replies

Boomerwang · 24/05/2014 07:38

I had that to greet me this morning as I drank my tea and puffed on my e-cig. My usual facebook check to see how my friends and family are doing. A video with over 3000 shares was on my wall, shared by a distant friend who was probably well meaning but she spoiled my morning by forcing me to think of women who do unspeakable things to babies.

AIBU to think that shocking people in this way is not the correct way to raise awareness? Even the NSPCC adverts on tv don't show anyone actually being struck and I'm sure the verbal abuse and violent behaviour isn't filmed while the child is there.

I do understand the difficulty in raising awareness of such issues compared to others. the NSPCC ads I already mentioned kind of rely on people to put two and two together rather than make it blatantly obvious like the video I saw this morning did. Still, there are lines you don't cross, surely?

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sewingandcakes · 24/05/2014 07:42

YANBU. I had this one yesterday too, it made me feel awful. If it's the same video that I saw, it was filmed a couple if years ago and the woman abusing the baby was found and sent to prison. None of that was clear from the post though, until someone else posted a link to a news article. That doesn't make it possible to get the images out of my head though.

PrincessBabyCat · 24/05/2014 08:33

I didn't even get through the whole video.

It's a lousy awareness video though. Child abusers don't go to the park and abuse their child in front of everyone. We don't need to know what abuse looks like, we know it when we see it. We need to know how to spot warning signs in children. We need to make programs for at risk kids and parents. But most importantly, we need to know who to contact and the right channels to go through if we do suspect abuse.

Also it was two years ago. No one really knows what happened to that mother and child since then. She's served her time. Is the child back with her? Did she get parenting classes and maybe some counseling if the child is in her custody again?

deakymom · 24/05/2014 08:38

i didnt get through the whole video facebook played it without me wanting to i complained to facebook they just sent me back the usual it doesn't violate our guidelines bull crap so i blocked the person and someone else has just shown it and its back again

Boomerwang · 24/05/2014 12:41

That's a point deakymom facebook now plays videos automatically when they are embedded in the page rather than linked to. Do you know how I can turn that off? It slows down facebook and also plays movies I might not want to watch, such as the one you saw.

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HouseofEliot · 24/05/2014 16:17

If you go into your facebook settings you need to turn off video auto-play.

Gileswithachainsaw · 24/05/2014 16:21

Oh god I think I know te video your talking about. And yes it started just playing too as I didn't click on it.

It's horrific and the fact there's a child stood there and some dick head stood filming the bloody woman is just sickening.

Agree with poster above. We know abuse when we see it we need to be aware of other things like warning signs

gotnotimeforthat · 24/05/2014 16:27

YANBU

The ' 1 like = 1 respect/prayer' or '1 like and Facebook will donate £1' really get my back up!! Using images and videos of child abuse an pretending your likes will raise money is just sickening.

Why are people so obsessed with likes/shares

tmae · 24/05/2014 16:48

This just happened to me too, it was horrible. I hate the way fb just plays videos. If people really want to share it, they should share a link and stress that it is distressing content.

JustWonderingAbout · 24/05/2014 16:48

I think that I saw this one and was horrified and so upset. Bit I did send an alert, reporting it to Facebook. Facebook replied that it was not counter to their community guidelines. Now I dint know which sickens and shocks me more. The video or facebook's response. I thought that they'd alert NSPCC or the police. Horrific. It left me feeling desperate - I wanted to grab that poor baby from the woman beating him but don't know where or when the video was taken. I've heard since that the person taking the video then took it to the police, that the wanna was taken into custody and baby taken into care. I ... dint believe it. Who could take that video and stand by without stepping in to stop it or to grab the poor baby?

Gileswithachainsaw · 24/05/2014 17:06

Why would the woman allow herself to be filmed though. That part seems very odd tbh

BeyondTheLimitsOfAcceptability · 24/05/2014 18:04

Like-farming. There shouldnt be a single facebook user who doesnt know what that is.

I guarantee whoever posted this video wasnt "raising awareness" they were like-farming. People who genuinely care dont share videos of children being abused, or dead babies, or injured animals.

JustWonderingAbout · 24/05/2014 19:03

Beyond, I'm completely with you! I don't believe for one moment that the person videoing was taking it to go to the police. Rubbish! But sensing this does made me wonder (worry about) what did happen to the baby.

PrincessBabyCat · 24/05/2014 20:01

There was a really horrific facebook video of a bunch of people splattered on the road from a car accident. Really graphic, filmed people taking their last breath, limbs torn off. Reported it to facebook and they replied back saying it didn't violate their guidelines. Hmm If dead people splattered across pavement doesn't violate their guidelines then what the fuck does??

Gileswithachainsaw · 24/05/2014 20:08

Well according to buzz feed a picture of two girls kissing was offensive enough to be removed Hmm Confused

More offensive than child a use clearly

Gileswithachainsaw · 24/05/2014 20:09

Child abuse

corkgirlindublin · 24/05/2014 20:48

Princessbabycat just fyi a picture of a woman breastfeeding with no boobs on display violates TV's guidelines

corkgirlindublin · 24/05/2014 20:48

Tv should read fb

Mrsjayy · 24/05/2014 20:53

It is illegal to share these images folk dont realise that also it helps np child

aurorasky · 24/05/2014 20:57

I saw this too. Was really upset as I had no choice but to watch it until I scrolled down the page. I am so angry that one of my friends posted this, I can't stop thinking about it and am very anxious about my own sons wellbeing anyway (he's not in any danger, I'm just an anxious parent!) grrrrr.

deakymom · 24/05/2014 21:59

according to another page this woman has had the baby taken away from her but still i dont think we need to see it to know it its sickening i sent numerous messages to the posters sharing it telling them to stop sharing it already!

Boomerwang · 24/05/2014 23:58

Yes since facebook auto plays movies it causes lag on some devices which means you are stuck with the movie on the screen until your device 'catches up' and you are able to scroll past it. You can't even stop the movie as the device is unresponsive.

I think auto play should be off by default.

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MistressDeeCee · 25/05/2014 00:07

I know the clip you are talking about, its on FB but I didnt click on it. The mother involved has been imprisoned.

It is absolutely and utterly disgraceful. Its not about raising awareness, its about people putting shock-horror factor up on their pages. People gratuitiously and ghoulishly viewing almost 4 minutes of violence against a child. I couldn't click on it and from what Ive heard, a lot of people have found it quite traumatic and have hit the complaint button on FB. Which has achieved precisely nothing, they're not interested. I hid it from my newsfeed but this new autoplay thing means a lot of people will get caught out.

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