would it be unreasonable to ask you what else to call a charity performance of Frozen to avoid royalties

[Iwanttovoteukip]

Further to another thread I started, would it be unreasonable of me to ask you for ideas for an obvious rename of Frozen to help me to sell tickets to a charity performance of the said same show in December?

Fro7en

Adapted from Frozen (with the first 2 words in very small letters)

etc...

You might fall foul of the juggernaut that is the Disney Corporation

Can't you chose a royalty free show?

I haven't seen it but isn't it based on the (non copyright) Snow Queen? Can you not just call it The Snow Queen?

I will look into the Snow Queen. I want people to come along to the show and I know that Frozen is massive amongst the little girls here so they are likely to be queueing down the road for tickets - sorry programmes!!!

You'll need to replace all the songs too.

Yes it would be unreasonable.

The charity won't thank you for the money if Disney come after them.

Why do you want to do it when you know you can't?

Forget Frozen! It belongs to Disney.

Do something else!

I was wondering about something similar. Our local soft play is having a "Frozen" disco and a "Frozen" lunchtime session over half term. They have used the characters images etc. They will be playing the soundtrack, I assume, and they are having "lookalikes" of the main characters. Surely they could get totally done by Disney for that?

OP, I'd change the show, to be honest.

You can pay for a license though, so maybe the soft play have. We often show films at a local film club and it costs £100 to get a licence to play them. Disney very often won't award a license though and you do need permission.

It isn't reasonable to do this without permission. If you ask for permission you may well be granted as it is for charity, and then you can call it Frozen. Copyright theft is still theft even if you are doing it for charity. The people who wrote the songs and composed the music have a right to make a living from their talent and you don't have the right to decide to deprive them of their rights but if you ask, you may be able to do the show legally.

"Winter is Coming"

What Kilda said.

'Creative People Don't Matter and It's Fine to Steal Their Work'?

As the others said, you really need a licence. Disney are really hot on copyright, I have heard them going after Primary schools etc. It's not worth the risk.

This is no different to your last thread. If you want your children/their friends/their children to grow up in a world where no one will pay for their creative efforts, go ahead.

Frozen is an absolute masterpiece - they rewrote the story on the strength of the song 'Let it Go' because they realised that the story was all wrong. They spent hours and hours, weeks and months, in fact years, putting that together and you want to rip it off in the name of 'charity'???

Theft isn't charity. Even Robin Hood knew that.

Further to Squeezy, it's theft, pure and simple. Would you go into a high street store and slip a few items under your coat for a charity jumble? It's the same principle.

Have you looked into how much it will cost to pay the copyright?
It might not be as bad as you think and you could be happy that you're all above board.

It's not just the name. It's the music and songs etc they'll be onto you for.

(Are you balloon doggy too?)

Creative People Don't Matter and It's Fine to Steal Their Work'

Yes. This wuold be a good name for your show,as it describes what youre doing.

What do you mean by a Frozen performance?
If you're showing the film... or planning on performing it with actors using the songs and dialogue, then I agree with everyone else. It's theft-and Disney are pretty rigorous in defending their copyright. Writers don't get paid much.

If what you are thinking of doing is taking the basic story and rewriting it, including songs if you want it to be musical then something along the lines of:
The Snow Queen: The story of Frozen.