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Trying to dump a friend that won't be dumped!

42 replies

Figamol · 19/05/2014 13:09

Im sorry for the terminology. I do think 'dump' is a bit brutal a word. Id really like some opinions on a situation. I used to work with a girl for 6 months in 2007, it was just the two of us really and we got on like a house on fire. I really enjoyed working with her. Although I had reservations about the friendship like she would keep me separate from her social life and didn't invite me to her 30th, and literally all conversations would be very about herself, didn't matter what we talked about there would be a lot of one upmanship. Which I kind of accepted as we did have a good time together and I had a very strong social circle too (which I often included her in).

When she left our company she tried to take with her my only client which brought in a LOT of money. Its what was keeping the company afloat and me in a job. She denied it but I was sat with the client who showed me her emails. I actually was happy to reason this away by the possibility she was being put under pressure in her new company. She tried to make it up to me but cancelled or stood me up in bars no less than 6 times. The friendship went quiet but I remained cordial if she emailed.

Suddenly she got very active on the email again being all friendly. Not too long later whilst we were both on maternity leave I find out she's trying to get her old job back, knowing full well there would only be one position open, mine. I was confident I wouldn't be outed for her but that really really hurt and I felt her false attempts at reaching out with very self serving. I later found out she was pushing for us to job share. Which I actually would have, just not with her.

In the end I took the leap and sent a really nice polite email explaining why I couldn't be friends but wishing her new family all the best of luck. And I meant it. I know she's not an evil person but well, I was done with the friendship. And I was frankly relieved when she moved away from the area.

She sent me nasty emails or groveling ones for the next 6 years very jekyll and hide, always timed on my birthday or anniversaries. Maybe not on purpose but I have literally had every event overshadowed by having her on my mind.

She's now back in the area. And desperate to be friends again. Its literally become like she's my stalker, even my old company are shocked at her behaviour. And frankly a lack of pride. I haven't replied to one email or letter in 6 years since telling her the friendship was effectively over. It might have actually had the chance to repair itself if shed just given me some space but now Im very bitter about the constant unwanted contact too.

If you've made it this far, thank you. I just don't want to be friends with her. But I am also not in the business of upsetting people either. How can I handle this? Ive had 3 kids in 3 years. Im emotionally tired and fragile and every little contact is properly like a black cloud over my day. Lately Ive felt like I must have postnatal depression. I have a circle of lovely friends. The kids schedules are full, and even if I get the time to go out and socialize, there are tens of people Id want to see over a glass of wine first.

Am I being unreasonable? Should I be giving her a chance? Or has she had her chance and blown it and really is behaving unacceptably as my instinct tells me.

I know this isn't a big problem to a lot of you lovely ladies, but it really is on my mind a lot at the moment and I could do with a soundboard. Thank you.

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caruthers · 19/05/2014 13:14

This very much sounds like you need an injunction against her.

She seems very bizarre.

CanaryYellow · 19/05/2014 13:16

She sounds really messed up. Keep ignoring her. Block her e-mail address and phone number. Bin her letters without reading them. Just do not engage with her at all.

HecatePropylaea · 19/05/2014 13:16

for the love of god don't give her a chance!

That will not end well for you.

Why on earth would you want to allow someone who has behaved so badly towards you back into your life in order that they aren't upset? I mean, there's nice and there's doormat, you know? You are worth more than that. Don't open yourself up to hassle. There is no way it's worth it. Listen to your instincts. They are trying to protect you. Let them.

It's ok to do or say something that someone is upset by. It's not like you are doing it because your intention or desire is to hurt.

Unlike her.

You can either keep her happy, which means letting her back into your life with all the hassle and drama that would bring or you can tell her politely and firmly that you do not wish any contact between you and accept the fact that she may be upset by that but it is not your fault

MammaTJ · 19/05/2014 13:17

Goodness me, could you block her on email?

I think you have done the dumping already, so don't need advice on that. You did it very well, imo!

You need to know how to get rid of the stalker she has become.

NoodleOodle · 19/05/2014 13:17

She sounds nuts!

AlpacaLypse · 19/05/2014 13:18

Actually she's behaving like a stalker.

Sorry to use a bit of a MN bugbear word, but she does sound a bit unhinged!

Lufian · 19/05/2014 13:19

Are you able to block her emails, or redirect then into your spam folder? And chuck any letters in the bin unread. If you have a partner maybe they could take over checking the mailbox for a few years or as long as it takes!

It sounds like this person is not going to give up easily, but you can reduce her impact on you by blocking access.

I'm sorry you're in this situation. Sounds very stressful.

YeGodsAndLittleFishes · 19/05/2014 13:23

Go to the police with the emails showing you have asked for no contact and showing the emails from her over the years to now. Ask whether her it is stalking/harassment, say she is back in the area and ask what to do about it. Maybe they could pay her a low key visit to stop it going further.

Figamol · 19/05/2014 13:24

Thank you, wow I though I was going mad by being too mean but your replies reassure me. Im a strong person, no doormat, but as I said, Im just too fragile to know if Im doing the right thing. She just messaged me on Facebook again all bright and breezy egging me on to give her a chance as life is too short. She's right, its too short to waste on people not loyal to me. Problem is this town is small and her little one is already in the same class as my best friends little one. I know her attempt at friendship are to make her life smoother but it won't make mine the same. Thanks for the replies. I'll read them again later and digest and decide. I might even send her this link so she can understand how bizarre her behaviour is ;)

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Whatisaweekend · 19/05/2014 13:25

Good grief you are totally not being U!! I think you have been extremely forbearing - I would have kicked her into touch when she tried to steal your client and then lied to you about it. She has since behaved appallingly, trying to steal your job/part of your job, being flakey about meet ups etc. I am sorry - it really sounds as though she is affecting your happiness.

I would just ignore ignore ignore. Block her emails and make sure your Facebook page is secure. Will you be going back to your work? You say that your old company is aghast at her behaviour - might it be worth mentioning to them that she is making you feel extremely uncomfortable? You don't want them giving her another chance and finding her there when you return?!

DenzelWashington · 19/05/2014 13:29

Without wanting to sound in any way critical, I actually think you've been enormously forgiving in the past, and overall have under-reacted.

Think about it: this woman has actively worked against you-betrayed you, if you like-twice times, both times over serious things: client, and job. Each of those betrayals fully merited cutting her off.

She then treated you dismissively (to put it kindly) by standing you up repeatedly. And she has carefully made each and every landmark occasion over a period of years all about her by sending you an email which, if not actively designed to mess with your mind, was clearly going to have that effect.

There are only two possibilities: she's so crazy she doesn't realise what she's doing to you; or she's so crazy she knows exactly what she's doing to you. It doesn't matter which it is, please don't waste any time trying to work her out.

Please just protect yourself from this woman immediately. You've got enough on your plate and you can't afford to give someone so unkind and untrustworthy any more headspace.

Set up a divert instruction to send her email to a special folder and let someone else (DP, sibling, friend) check it periodically for you. Either write a brusque letter saying no more contact, or get a solicitor to do it, or go to the police and ask them to issue her with a harassment notice, whatever seems most appropriate. Don't have any contact with her. There is very unlikely to be anything in it for you except more unpredictable, undermining and damaging behaviour.

Figamol · 19/05/2014 13:30

You're right, I shall find a way to hide myself from her on Facebook. Her emails already go to junk. Nothing I can do about the letters (written on her sons drawings) except to put them in the bin. My old company know although they remain in touch with her too. They're surprised at her behaviour and laughingly call her my stalker. They know she stressed me out. I doubt Id go back to be honest for practical reasons, but I also know she wasn't amazing at her job. Even if the next job she took was pretty high flying. Thank you thank you ladies. I feel lighter already.

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Figamol · 19/05/2014 13:33

I should mention we're abroad and expats which makes doing anything official all the more unlikely. But the situation is uncomfortable as anyone who has been an expat knows just how small life is in these circles. Day to day we would be unlikely to cross paths in person ourselves though but with summer holidays coming up and kids activities being few and far between, I have no doubt I'll bump into her. At which point I'll let hubby handle it.

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Whatisaweekend · 19/05/2014 13:35

Aah I am glad you feel a bit better. It's funny, isn't it, how particularly females are programmed to try and be nice and not offend/hurt but this woman is in no way a positive presence in your life. As the ever-wise Hecate said upthread, trust your instincts on this one.
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HecatePropylaea · 19/05/2014 13:38

You are certainly not mean. In fact, it is testament to your kind heart that you are even thinking about all this and concerned at all with not upsetting her

TeenageMutantNinjaTurtle · 19/05/2014 13:39

I once had an ex-boyfriend like this - every birthday/valentines day/Christmas I'd get a note from him or an email etc for YEARS. They were always a bit odd, nothing about getting back together but weird stuff about maybe being friends one day and how much we had to offer one another in life in general.

I was lucky enough to be moving so he didn't know where I lived... but I also faked a "TMNT no longer works at this company" email so he stopped emailing me at work, changed my phone number and personal email address so he could no longer get hold of me. When they invented Facebook, I had a flurry of messages from him (I blocked him) - and I know he still checks my linked in profile every now and again but other than that, I feel much more free (I did see him in a restaurant a couple of years ago and had to leave through the back I was so desperate for him not to see me).

It IS really tedious and depressing to have every important event potentially overshadowed by a nutball. My advice is to do what you can to reduce their ability to contact you and then delete/destroy anything that does get through without reading it.

You are not responsible for her actions so do not feel bad and do not give her another chance! I found that any chink in my amour would just invite a whole new slew of rubbish from him.

aderynlas · 19/05/2014 13:40

I think you have been very patient with this person. I wouldnt give her another chance either. Life has enough stress without having to deal with someone acting like she has. Hope you have a lovely summer holidays with your family.

TeenageMutantNinjaTurtle · 19/05/2014 13:43

Armour - not amour! A completely different meaning to that sentence Grin

ThaneOfScunthorpe · 19/05/2014 13:43

Six years?? At best determined, at worst a bit unhinged. Really, we don't ALL have to be friends with each other.

I'm an expat too, so I know what you mean. Everyone gets invited to the same things, everyone goes to the same places and it's difficult to avoid.

BecauseIsaidS0 · 19/05/2014 13:47

I had a similar experience. Ten years on, she is still attempting communication. TEN YEARS!

Do not engage.

HecatePropylaea · 19/05/2014 13:52

TEN YEARS

Holy crap what is wrong with some people?

Can they not take a hint?

a big fuck off and years of ignoring you is subtle, I agree but still...

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GrassIsSinging · 19/05/2014 13:57

She sounds unstable and like avery destructive person to have in your life. Continue to ignore, but if it is really affecting you - consider going to the police.

BecauseIsaidS0 · 19/05/2014 14:29

I think it's a power thing. This particular person was very manipulative so she hates the fact that she can't hurt me/affect me/influence me anymore. So she keeps stalking me in the hope that I will someday engage.

eddielizzard · 19/05/2014 14:31

sounds absolutely horrendous.

i would block her on facebook.

my email gives me the option to bounce emails and then moves them to trash. it'll look to her like you've changed your email. can you do that?

i'd ask your company not to mention her to you anymore, because you have no wish to know the latest.

SlimJiminy · 19/05/2014 16:38

Wow! No more chances. Block her on Facebook and ignore, ignore, ignore. I have a similar situation (not work-related but personal fuckery followed by a drip-feed of attempted contact when I'd finally kicked off had enough. Don't worry about the possibility of bumping into her. I've done that - sometimes we've spoken politely to each other and other times when there are enough people around we completely ignore each other. I've had enough of her fucked up ways. Life's too short to give her more chances when I have so many other wonderful friends who don't screw me over whenever they feel like it.