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To be shocked by Cards Against Humanity game?

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Topaz25 · 19/05/2014 07:45

I saw a few Facebook friends mentioning this fun game they're playing, Cards Against Humanity, so I thought I'd check it out. The aim of the game is to come up with funny and offensive card combinations. I was aware that the humour was adult and offensive and I don't think of myself as a prude but I was still shocked to find that it contains references to: ‘Madeleine McCann’, ‘Jade Goody’s cancerous remains’ and the Hillsborough disaster. One of my Facebook friends who plays is a mother so I'm shocked that she has no empathy for Madeline McCann's mother. I know this game is protected by free speech etc but AIBU to think less of anyone who plays it?

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QueenofallIsee · 19/05/2014 11:13

I have no interest in teaching you Sociology Topaz, which is basically what your question relates to. I would refer you to the success of Roy Chubby Brown, the controversy around Frankie Boyle or Sacha Baron Cohens satirical representations for various arguments. Don't buy a ticket if its not funny to you, don't buy the game.

What is bad taste to you/me/anyone else is sometimes humour to others and you don't get to decide that your taste is superior.

Topaz25 · 19/05/2014 11:16

This not about taste or Sociology, you're trying to complicate the issue. The McCann's and relatives of victims of the Hillsborough disaster are hurt by this game, doesn't that bother you? Why not? That's all I'm asking.

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Topaz25 · 19/05/2014 11:18

Why make life worse for people who are already going through a very difficult time by paying to play a game that mocks their suffering?

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Topaz25 · 19/05/2014 11:18

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PrincessBabyCat · 19/05/2014 11:19

I love that game! :) One of the best party/drinking games.

And..it's cards against humanity. It's suppose to be offensive. If you want a fun family game in the same spirit just play "Apples to Apples".

ineedausername · 19/05/2014 11:30

Then should we never do anything that may offend or upset someone else? Should I never drive my car as people are killed in car accidents and that would be mocking them? Should I never get on a bus incase I upset someone who has a family member who was hurt in a bus related accident? Should I not enjoy a tv murder mystery as there are probably going to be people with actual family members who have been murdered?
It's a game, if you don't like it, ignore it!

fridgepants · 19/05/2014 11:30

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Topaz25 · 19/05/2014 11:38

ineedausername
You know that's completely different. Driving isn't going out of the way to offend accident victims, this game is. The creators of the game are profiting from causing extra pain to the relatives of Madeline McCann, Jade Goody and the relatives of victims of the Hillsborough disaster. The people who buy it or promote it are supporting that.

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WomanScorned · 19/05/2014 11:41

I'd never heard of it until now, but it doesn't sound very funny to me.
YANBU to be shocked by those references; who gets to tell you what to be shocked by? If you are, you are.

MyrtleDove · 19/05/2014 11:43

Cards Against Humanity has been around for ages and the US version is different. I wasn't aware the UK version was quite so tasteless, the US version is really funny.

But anyone can make cards for the game.

Topaz25 · 19/05/2014 11:44

Eli Halpern, 27, project leader of the British version, said their “mission statement” was “to take the most sacred thing in the UK and tarnish it”.

He has been quoted as saying Hillsborough "seemed fair game because it was historic".
www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/hillsborough-families-card-game-mocking-7137034

So it is the official British version and not just anyone making cards.

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StarSwirl92 · 19/05/2014 11:47

Actually, why should people care who it upsets? It isn't inciting anyone to commit violence, its using cultural references appropriate to its market to create humour. You may not like it, they may not like it, that doesn't give you the right to assume moral superiority. Is making a joke any worse than posting 'conspiracy theories' on Facebook. Or papers demonising victims for money? One card refers to David Bowie riding in on a tiger made of lightning, should he be upset over the drug connotations?

There are plenty more things actually causing damage in this world and you're criticising others based on whether they laugh at bad taste jokes on a piece of card.

WomanScorned · 19/05/2014 11:49

I agree that getting on a bus isn't anything like the same thing as, say, sharing a news report of a bus accident on FB with 'Hahaha, inneefofausername's relative was horribly mangled in a bus crash' as your status! :|

Topaz25 · 19/05/2014 11:55

why should people care who it upsets?

OK, I don't really know where to begin here but I'll try. Because we're all human, something horrible could happen to any one of us and we should try to help other humans through hard times or at least not actively make things worse for them by supporting a company that compounds their pain. HTH.

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WomanScorned · 19/05/2014 11:58

I'm confused, rather than shocked that, yesterday, posters agreed, overwhelmingly, that it's out of order to mock a comedian's frock on Twitter, but today it's ok to mock the loss of a child or the death of a young mother, on FB!

QueenofallIsee · 19/05/2014 12:03

It is exactly about Sociology Topaz, that is not needlessly complicating anything. You are looking to make a moral judgment here based on you assessment of something as tasteless rather than funny. I am pointing out that the question of what makes a 'Good Joke' rather than a Bad Taste Remark is not based on the judgment of your good self, it is a combination of various factors interpreted by an individual. You don't get to tell me what I am supposed to laugh at.

I submit the theory that the vast majority of people who may or may not be the subject of the game/a joke/a discussion on t'internet probably don't give a monkeys, as they will have more significant things on their mind

fridgepants · 19/05/2014 12:09

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PrincessBabyCat · 19/05/2014 12:11

Cards Against Humanity has been around for ages and the US version is different. I wasn't aware the UK version was quite so tasteless, the US version is really funny.

The US version has tasteless cards too, with jokes about incest, date rape, 9/11, dead babies, etc.. It's kind of the point of the game to come up with the most offensive combination of cards.

I just don't think that the US version has ever targeted a missing child.

But everything else seems like it'd be fair game and just as offensive as the US version.

Topaz25 · 19/05/2014 12:14

I'm 25 and don't see Hillsborough as 'historic', although it helps that I grew up in Sheffield. It is still very raw for the families as they are still fighting for justice. I haven't played the game because I disagree with it and won't support, fund or condone it but I have seen examples of the cards.

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Topaz25 · 19/05/2014 12:15

QueenofallIsee
It's not the same as a joke or discussion because the people who produce this game are profiting from mocking peoples' pain and paying for or promoting that is actively contributing to the problem. The families certainly do "give a monkeys", they are quoted in the article I posted. Why pay for or promote something that causes them extra pain?

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PrincessBabyCat · 19/05/2014 12:21

It's a joke, you just don't find it funny. There's a difference.

If we go by your theory there will be no jokes left except puns and knock knock jokes. Every joke is offensive to someone.

Just because you find it tasteless doesn't mean it isn't a joke, or a good one to certain people. But you can't just limit something because someone got "offended" by it.

But if you find it upsetting, just don't play it. Just don't be deluded into thinking you have a moral high ground for declaring that some things should not be laughed at.

Topaz25 · 19/05/2014 12:23

Maybe you missed my post where I said it's not just about laughing at a joke, it's supporting a company that profits from mocking people's pain. I think some people are missing the point.

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MrsAlexVause · 19/05/2014 12:27

I think PrincessBabyCat put it perfectly.

StarSwirl92 · 19/05/2014 12:28

Then don't buy a news paper, watch tv or go on the internet. Because then you would be supporting people who mock others.

Yes we are all human beings and what jokes I choose to share with friends should not be judged by someone who doesn't know me.

fridgepants · 19/05/2014 12:28

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