Lionmarked eggs come from hens on daily antibiotics

[LoveJillbooks]

Just to dispell a myth ...

You cannot vaccinate hens against salmonella:

1. You cannot build up permanent resistance against salmonella (that is why you can contract repeatable salmonella food poisoning)

1. It would be totally uneconomic to vaccinate each hen

In my view it is plain misleading to say these hens are vaccinated. What happens is that they are in huge sheds and get daily antibiotics through their drinking water system. In order to dose the antibiotics correctly you need a minimum of 1000 hens using the water system.

So if you eat these eggs you are right potential salmonella bacterium will have been killed but at the same time you get antibiotics as well.

so organic lion eggs come from where then...??

and yet, we're all still alive.

This is from the lion eggs website:

Pullet farms/vaccination programme
All birds destined for Lion Quality egg-producing flocks are vaccinated against Salmonella enteritidis using an approved vaccine. This entails more than 2 million pullets being vaccinated each month, at a cost of around £4 million per year.
A full hygiene monitoring programme including hygiene swabbing must be completed by pullet rearers before birds are taken onto the farm. Rearing flocks are tested for salmonella and all equipment and vehicles used for transporting pullets to the laying unit must be disinfected. Records of bird movement, salmonella testing and control of wild birds and rodents must be kept on the passport.

I am sure you believe what you have been told and are not just scaremongering but look into things before you dispell myths.

According to the Lion Mark Code of Practice all birds destined for lion mark egg laying are vaccinated against Salmonella enteritidis.

www.lioneggfarms.co.uk/information/british-lion-quality-code-of-practice/ heres the link

Yes you can vaccinate against salmonella.
We even do so in humans for certain types of salmonella (typhi).

It's helps that the birds have a short laying life.

I'm Vegan, so I find the whole animal industry abhorrent.

However, I get lots of factual links via the Anti Farming Websites I'm on.

It's an ongoing dilemma. Over vaccinate and there will be a rise in the amount of meat or eggs found with drugs unfit for human consumption (5-15% currently), or cook your eggs well.

My girls have the run of the back garden, will come & take pieces of bread/sausage out of your hand, will be picked up, fly up & sit on your shoulder & have hilarious personalities of their own. I totally luffs them.

I use their eggs in chocolate mousse which is uncooked & there's no way that I would now buy eggs or chicken that has been battery farmed: a living space of A4 size. (The funniest is when they flutter onto the climbing deck & half fly/slide down the slide. Wonderful!)

Well that was funny

frances I'm not sure it's a good idea to feed chickens processed meat. I'm happy to be shot down by some great reasoning as I've got 11 lovely free range hens who lay amazingly tasty eggs but I confine fresh food to lots of veg and some bread (they love veg).

I've never bought eggs as my parents have amazing ducks and when I eat out the eggs always look so weak and pale and bleugh.

Chickens are omniverous. They will frequently eat insects. We used to feed ours meal worms they adore them. Different to sausage I know.

I used to work in a battery hen farm.

All new chickens would get antibiotic eye drops on arrival. Nothing in the water. This was 20 years ago.

Erm YABU

What was the question?

brilliant

YABU OP - but you made me laugh like a drain - cheers

YABU to post this here.

Where did you find this information OP?

Hens are vaccinated for salmonella the vaccine is Nobilis Salenvac it costs about 20p per chicken and is widely carried out.

Oh yes and antibiotics are not allowed in birds that are producing eggs. Real facts from real datasheets, for a real vet who has worked in the poultry industry.

I thought egg laying hens were sprayed with vaccine against Salmonella and that it is chickens intensively reared for meat are fed antibiotics - they are so packed together that bacterial disease is common and antibiotics are routinely given to keep on top of it.

I might not be exactly correct but I'd guess I'm a lot more correct than the OP.

Where is the myth busting OP?

OP- I'm sure you're going to come back with some evidence to back up your claim right?

is this the same Jill who cites links from years ago and that known scientific periodical, the Daily Mail, in her postings about wi-fi?

difficult stuff, science. :-)