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To think that drinking 111 units of alcohol in 30 hours...

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TartWithACart · 14/05/2014 20:30

Or 20 units (maybe less) combined with at least two ecstasy tablets, amphetamine, cocaine, ketamine, mephadrone or a combination of those drugs (consumed over the same period of time) - is not normal and is a pretty fucking strong indicator that you have a serious problem?

Even if "it only happens a couple of times a month" and "all my friends are the same"?

I would really like everyone's views on this on so i can reassure myself I haven't absolutely lost my grip on reality!

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gamerchick · 14/05/2014 21:07

I don't think it's possible to drink that much in that space of time without ending up in hospital. How was it calculated.. is this what he's telling you?

Raskova · 14/05/2014 21:07

I do know a whole host of people who take these drugs and drink loads and think it's totally normal.

I've never touched a drug in my life so can't really comment.

If he mixes all that regularly he'll be dead soon.

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TartWithACart · 14/05/2014 21:09

KeinBock This is based purely on what he told me he drank. Specifically:

  • One and a half bottles of rose wine
  • Four pitchers of woowoo in Wetherspoons (IIRC there are four shots in each pitcher)
  • A litre of Captain Morgan's rum split between 4 people (so in the interest of fairness I assumed he only drank his own quarter of the bottle)
And when he woke up the next morning...
  • Two further litres of rum

If my calculation is off please feel free to correct me, I freely admit that I am a disaster with maths!

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Canus · 14/05/2014 21:12

Two litres of rum in a morning sounds unlikely.

SaucyJack · 14/05/2014 21:13

The drink and drugs does sound pretty common to me. I'm sure I've managed similar meself on various occasions.

I don't believe the two litres of rum for breakfast tho. He'd be unconscious.

Raskova · 14/05/2014 21:14

Those pitchers are the weakest drink you'll ever buy. I worked in a bar in my student days and a huge pitcher had half ice and only two shots.

I think that sounds normal to be honest. Not including drugs. And if the further litres were shared.

MrsJoeGargery · 14/05/2014 21:14

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MrsKoala · 14/05/2014 21:18

I have been an amazing binge drinker in my time. Once i drank 7 bottles of wine and 4 cans of beer in one day. Another time i drank a litre of blue vodka, 2 litres of cider and a few beers. But i reckon i've never gone over 80 units in one go. I've also drank a few bottles of wine, half a bottle of Jack Daniels and done a gram of speed and about 6 lines of cocaine on one particular occasion.

All this is obviously in my past. i probably would do this about 4-8 times a year (not the drugs. i stopped doing that at 21) till i was about 28 (as well as drinking a couple of bottles of wine/8 cans of beer on a fri and sat nights - but while i was at uni i usually drank 1.5 litres of white wine every night). But no it isn't 'normal' or sustainable at all.

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TartWithACart · 14/05/2014 21:30

To be honest I am disinclined to believe that he managed to sink two bottles of rum the next day (he said it was spread over most of the day) and I think that because he can't actually remember drinking them he just assumed the worst when he found the empty bottles in his kitchen. Hopefully they were split with his friends the night before.

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MrsKoala · 14/05/2014 21:33

Sounds more realistic Tart. I don't know anyone who could drink that much in one go, and i know some really big drinkers.

Does he feel okay about drinking this amount? How old is he? Sorry, have i missed this info?

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TartWithACart · 14/05/2014 21:33

MrsKoala - May I ask you: did a specific event cause you to stop bingeing or did you simply "grow out of it"?

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ManWithNoName · 14/05/2014 21:37

Its 3 bottles of vodka and if drunk over 48 hours a hardened alcoholic may very well be able to handle it.

LoveSardines · 14/05/2014 21:39

Option A sounds doable to me right up until the 2 litres of rum in the AM.

The drink + drugs list sounds doable also.

YouAreCompletelyRight · 14/05/2014 21:39

At Xmastime my SIL's pal stayed over after a party at SIL's. She woke up at 7 when the DNs woke up and drank 2 bottles of red wine before 8.30 when I insisted on driving her home, the kids were sitting watching CBeebies FFS!

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TartWithACart · 14/05/2014 21:40

He's 25. I think he knows he has a problem but he is reluctant to admit it (I fully understand why he doesn't want to due to his past). He has told me he feels ashamed of himself sometimes. He refuses to believe that this will have a negative affect in his health and is actually very health conscious with regards to his diet and regular exercise.

Apologies if anyone feels that I am drip feeding, I didn't want to distract from the question by overloading my OP with info.

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LoveSardines · 14/05/2014 21:41

I probably could have managed all that at 25 bar the two bottles of rum in the morning.

Probably done it every weekend too.

Does he have a partner/kids?

Raskova · 14/05/2014 21:42

If it helps, my dad had a touch of alcoholism and at his worst was only drinking one litre of captain Morgans a day (neat)

MrsKoala · 14/05/2014 21:45

A bit of both. I got really tired of waking up feeling like utter shit. The hangovers started lasting 5 days Shock and of course there was the shame and humiliation of the embarrassing things i had done. I made some horrendously dangerous choices and indulged in really risky behaviour. When i look back now i shudder at what could have happened.

I was very unhappy and i was diagnosed Bi-polar. I often drank when self medicating or rapid cycling (of course that contributed majorly). I eventually lost my husband and all my friends (not because of the drinking, but it didn't help) and i met DH. I needed to sort my life out. I wanted children and to be happy, i just didn't know how. I don't think i am/was an alcoholic, i still drink quite happily in moderation (not at the moment as i'm pregnant), but it was definitely a symptom of two things. A) my upbringing, binge drinking and drinking every day is totally normalised. My dad who is 70 next year still drinks everyday - the days he says he doesn't are the days he 'has only drank wine/cider' Hmm and B) my misery.

I'm much happier now and i do still enjoy drinking - just not till i pass out. :)

UncleT · 14/05/2014 21:45

Raskova nobody mentioned methadone. Re-read the first post.

To the OP - no, if true then it's pretty insane, but I would take it with a large pinch of salt.

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TartWithACart · 14/05/2014 21:46

No kids Sardines and he's convinced he will give it all up when he does have children (and I actually suspect this to be the truth). I asked him if he thought someone would want to hang around long enough to have kids though!

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LoveSardines · 14/05/2014 21:53

You see this sort of behaviour was quite common in the circles I grew up in / was young in. And for years and years.

The vast majority of people slowed down / stopped especially when they settled down. No-one has any health issues that I know of. I suppose some might have addictions that I don't know about, but that would be the ones I am less close to. I also suspect that women calm it down a lot more than men when children come due to stopping when TTC/PG/BF and on mat leave etc.

Dunno.

The 2 bottles of rum in the morning would be extreme but all the rest of it neither me nor my mates would have batted an eyelid. Well apart from the mephadrone I don't even know what that is.

apachepony · 14/05/2014 21:56

The drugs bit sounds perfectly doable, I did it fairly often when I was 25, except with more drink. Have grown up now as have all my party friends, we all have good jobs and are married with children now so he's not necessarily ruining his life! The 111 units seems pretty impossible.

LoveSardines · 14/05/2014 21:56

Oh I am alcoholic though, I totally failed to calm it down when everyone else did! I always drank daily though through the years while everyone else only drank (etc) when out. But that is kind of FYI for completeness, I am the exception rather than the rule out of the people I know.

MrsKoala · 14/05/2014 21:56

That's the thing Tart. I knew DH would never tolerate it, and i wanted to be with him and have a family. Also DH, while he likes a drink, isn't a big drinker (i've never seen him have more than 3-4 drinks and never seen him wasted) so it was easier when i was with him not to drink. I also smoked when i had a drink. So once the drinking went, so did the fags.

I have an old friend/drinking partner who has never grown out of it. At the beginning he was 'rock'n'roll' but now he is nearly 40, working in a low paid admin job he hates (they don't sack him as alcoholism is a registered disability where he works, and they are extremely forgiving and supportive of him). He sees occupational health regularly due to his extreme absences. He has lost so many lovely girlfriends who thought he would change and after a year they give up (he's very charming and has no problem attracting people - altho the older he gets the harder it is). He has had ten 1 year relationships over the last 11 years. He drinks first thing in the morning. So i may meet him for lunch at noon and he stinks of stale booze and fags and has red wine all round his mouth. I feel very sad for him. But also very cross and frustrated at how much help and opportunity he has squandered.

He seems to think he is going to have kids. I really hope not.

Preciousbane · 14/05/2014 22:01

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