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to be grateful to UKIP

90 replies

drivenfromdistraction · 14/05/2014 11:56

for terrifying me so completely with the possibility of them getting any sort of power, that I have actually pulled my finger out for once and voted. Not for them, obv.

I have been a shamefully lethargic voter all my life, but my inner suffragette has finally surfaced.

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drivenfromdistraction · 14/05/2014 13:26

Politics at a local level can be totally different to a national and European. Yes, true, Gobbolino, I was responding to the comment about using a UKIP vote as a protest against the 'LibLabCon trifecta', and thinking ahead to the general election when I made my 'running the country' comment.

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CogitoErgoSometimes · 14/05/2014 13:26

YANBU. I'm not an angry person but the local UKIP leaflet absolutely incensed me for being oh-so- carefully the right side of racist/xenophobic but making it very clear that foreigners are after your jobs. When some poor immigrant gets killed by the inevitable no-neck thug that takes this kind of thing as a green light for retribution, the UKIP apologists will all throw their hands up and say 'nothing to do with us guv'

Dangerous bastards

Icimoi · 14/05/2014 13:27

[yawns] at "LibLabCon". I'm sure it doesn't apply here, but in other circles it could look a bit like parroting of phrases normally found amongst the more hard of thinking in the comment columns of the right wing press.

gotnotimeforthat · 14/05/2014 13:28

buzzard

No but starting a thread purely to say that you haven't voted for them and nothing much else. Is very much like 'patting yourself on the back'

Imagine if someone started a thread just to say 'cancer scares me so today I put some spare change in the bucket'

drivenfromdistraction · 14/05/2014 13:31

I realise you're not talking to me, gotnotime, just talking about me, but I didn't post 'purely to say that I haven't voted for them'. I posted to say how ironic it is that I should be grateful to them for causing me to break out of my usual apathy about voting.

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NeverendingPotato · 14/05/2014 13:32

Yay!

It's basically lethargy that's let the lunatic fringe get anywhere at all, hopefully lots more sensible people will vote Grin

Unfortunately, there will always be people who think they're being all counter-culture by voting for the politics of ignorance and hate.

drivenfromdistraction · 14/05/2014 13:32

Though I realise that's also a minority interest thread! Why is that a problem?

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NeverendingPotato · 14/05/2014 13:34

pats OP on back

Thanks

obviously if you voted Tory I think you're deluded but still

MrsBlackthorn · 14/05/2014 13:35

It's depressing quite how much houseroom they get in the media, and that so many people are genuinely considering voting for them, but you're right, if the attention means people wake up to what a nasty agenda they have and start engaging with politics again, maybe it will have a positive impact.

gotnotimeforthat · 14/05/2014 13:37

driven

I'm just saying how I am interpreting your OP.

Wether you meant for it to come across this way or not to ME this sounds like you are just wanting a pat on the back.

MyrtleDove · 14/05/2014 13:41

TucsonGirl so why precisely do you want compulsory abortions for foetuses with Down's Syndrome, no more maternity leave for women and Lenny Henry to move to 'a black country'? UKIP are NOT just about getting out of EU (aside from that being a stupid idea anyway), and if you can't see that then tbh I'm not sure how you manage to find your way to the polling station, let alone make up your mind to vote.

You realise that if we have UKIP MEPs, they will align themselves with actual fascists in the rest of Europe? Actual real-life fascists in Greece, Sweden and elsewhere? Why are you OK with a party who likes fascism and oppressing women, LGBTQA people and other minorities?

It scares me that people are willing to throw vulnerable people under the bus as a 'protest vote'. FFS if you want a protest vote, vote Green, don't vote for people who think floods are caused by gay marriage.

OPohdear · 14/05/2014 13:42

I love Ukip, especially in Tory marginals... They split the right-wing vote, just like the Tea Party does in the US.

TitusFlavius · 14/05/2014 13:45

gotnotimeforthat it's pretty impressive that you've devoted time and energy telling the OP off for posting a message on, er, a message board, but no time or energy to addressing the racism, sexism or abelism of UKIP. I wonder why?

gotnotimeforthat · 14/05/2014 13:47

Wasn't the compulsory abortion thing just an opinion of one guy? I can't find anything that says it is actually one of their policies.

If anyone can link me to that I would be grateful.

TitusFlavius · 14/05/2014 13:49

So if they aren't abelist, you are totally cool with the racism and the sexism?

gotnotimeforthat · 14/05/2014 13:51

Wasn't the compulsory abortion thing just an opinion of one guy? I can't find anything that says it is actually one of their policies.

If anyone can link me to that I would be grateful.

gotnotimeforthat · 14/05/2014 13:54

titus

Yes because I think this thread is pointless obviously means I support racism and sexism.

My issue as I clearly stated was OP mentioned she hasn't voted for them and that's about it. Now if there was mention of policies etc my response would be very different but there wasn't. Just what I interpret as wanting a pat on the back.

LackaDAISYcal · 14/05/2014 13:54

I spoke to my labour councillor this morning, when she came a-canvassing (first time in 9 years of living here I have seen any election candidate at my door). She was nice.

TitusFlavius · 14/05/2014 14:04

gotnotimeforthat just, if you are so concerned about us wasting our time on this "pointless" thread, I'd love to see you raise the tone by giving your opinion of UKIP policies and how they will affect us.

LackaDAISYcal · 14/05/2014 14:12

It was the opinion of one man and he was sacked, just as many other gobby, offensive UKIPers have been sacked, however as The New Statesman pointed out "Farage can distance himself from all of them; sack all of them; disinherit all of them. The inescapable truth is that it is his policies which attract them and will keep doing so ; they remain his “eccentrics”."

MrsBlackthorn · 14/05/2014 14:49

This thread prompted me to go out and deliver some more leaflets. Not for UKIP, obviously.

drivenfromdistraction · 14/05/2014 15:45

Then the thread has been worthwhile, MrsBlackthorn! Though obviously I only started it in order to get virtual 'pats on the back' and arselicks.

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picnicbasketcase · 14/05/2014 15:51

Well done for voting. It's important.

Even though you didn't start the thread so people could say well done, I'm saying it anyway. Ner.

ApocalypseThen · 14/05/2014 16:36

Can I ask by what mechanism voting for this shower of weirdos, racists, misogynists and half wits is going to remove the UK from the EU?

vertec · 14/05/2014 17:23

It amuses me how the anti-UKIP brigade make such arses of themselves with their smug, self-satisfied postings.

The OP is a glorious example of the holier-than-thou liberal Left, getting a little endorphin kick out of their unshakeable conviction that they, and only they, know what's right and wrong.

I'm still voting UKIP and cannot wait to do so Smile