aibu to think that if your a pensioner then turning up to the early blood clinic is selfish

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Unless your there for a fasting blood sugar or need a very early morning sample, why was the blood clinic rammed with pensioners at 7:30am who had been there from 7 (to get an early ticket). Thus making people late for work, because when they arrived at 7:30 for the 7:30 clinic there is already 20+ pensioners waiting with their tickets causing waiting times to be over an hour fromthe off.

Is it unreasonable to expect an early morning clinic put on for those who cant go during work hours, to be kept for those who need to get to work

OMG.
My DF retired last year.
Then got diagnosed with cancer.
Goes to blood clinic early am so his white blood cell count can be measured in time for his chemo to be ordered for the afternoon.

He worked hard all his life.
His long looked forward to retirement is filled with pain, sadness and suffering.

65 is young to be so ill .

You will be 65 one day OP

And just like my DF you won't think you are old and you won't want to die.

Utterly disgraceful post.

OMG OP you are no more special than the next person. Ever thought of going private? [anger]

Just because someone is retired does not mean they are not busy. The majority of my fellow volunteers at my local RDA group are pensioners. Many of them volunteer on more than one day and also volunteer elsewhere or look after older relatives or grandchildren too, and perhaps, shock horror, want to have some time for themselves. Early morning clinics are there for anyone who needs an early appointment, not just those in paid work.

Oh come on, all this pc bollocks about the odd genuine need to be seen early for medical reasons doesnt alter the fact that many elderly people do this for no other reason than they dont want to queue!

My grandad would go to bed super early (think 7pm instead of 8pm) when he had to go to haematology the next day. He had cancer, he was ill but he didnt need to be in the queue that early, in fact he often got misleading results due to the fact that he would up, dress, leave and not eat first. He did it so he didnt have to wait, which he hated and then went home and went back to bed. He needed to be first mentally though, he couldnt bear waiting for anyone. I still dont know why but he got irrationally pissed off if he had to queue and would complain loudly if someone younger than him got called in first because he was older ergo he needed to be seen quicker. And no, he had no dementia issues.

There was outcry in my old town when the bus company put on commuter buses that would not accept OAP passes, there were other buses on at the same time that did accept them but that wasnt good enough. There was not a single adequate argument about why this was unacceptable when the shouters were asked.

My parents are (between them) OAP, deaf, blind and mobility limited. They dont get why anyone would be up in time to start the Post Office queue at 8am to save themselves a ten minute wait when it opens at 9! Its nothing to do with need 90% of the time, but everything to do with "Me first, I win".

YABU. First dressed, first served. Perhaps their community bus only runs them to the office at that time. Perhaps they want to avoud the children later in the day. Whatever their reason, it's none of your business.

Hmmm, I'm inclined to agree with you to a degree on this. Whilst I acknowledge that there are pensioners who have a genuine need to go about their business outside of office hours, there are also many who don't, and either just don't think of the consequences to working people, or just don't care.
Queuing on my lunch break at the post office is one of my gripes, when the people ahead of have the rest if the bloody day to go. There are countless other examples.
In my line of work I have very limited appointments available on weekends for my customers. Nothing riles me more than a customer who I know doesn't work during the week requesting a Saturday when there are plenty of available weekday appointments. Thus making it impossible for full time office hours customers to be able to book in with me.

And maybe the people doing their shopping at lunchtime when the Very Important Workers should be allowed to do theirs without the hindrance have been at the blood clinic all morning, so had no time to do it earlier.

Or maybe, you know, are exercising their right to do their fucking shopping when they want.

The ageism on Mumsnet is a fucking disgrace.

And Eminy- I really really hope that the customer who "riles" you ups and takes her custom elsewhere. Because with your attitude you don't deserve them.

Drank - over the top and missing the point.

Eminybob didn't 't even mention the age of her unthinking client.

This thread could also have been about the unemployed. But obviously they won't be out of bed at 7.30. .. The op mentioned pensioners because that's what she saw and heard. If they had all been looking at their watches and tutting that would be late for work/volunteering/appointments elsewhere she wouldn't have been complaining would she.

My point about Eminy's disgusting attitude to her clients stands.

My point about the disgusting ageism on MN stands.

Even as a GP, why would you presume to know someone's commitments/movements for the day? I have many close friends but wouldn't presume to know what they're up to each day to make them prefer an early appt.

YABU. My SIL's mum always goes to the earliest possible clinic then comes home and looks after her grandson all day so SIL can go out to work. Perhaps you'd prefer she went a bit later and irriated everyone with a screaming bored toddler?

YABVVU

The world does not revolve around you.

What old fashioned attitudes some young people have:
'Workers' only work 9-5, Monday-Friday.
Pensioners have nothing to do all day but go for clinic appointments.

Do try and keep up - its not 1950 any more.

Of course pensioner blood tests are always done at leisure, on a full stomach. Pensioner blood tests are never fasting bloods.

You need to get some breakfast down you.

What about disabled people turning up early? In their cumbersome wheelchairs, hogging the lifts and taking up extra space in the waiting area? What about mums with kids turning up early, surely, if it's a pre-school child, they could turn up anytime.

YABU. VERY, VERY UNREASONABLE.

You don't know the circumstances of these "elderly" people. And what's elderly? 99?, 65? Or do you mean retired, as in, they have nothing else to do? I used to be the Practice Nurse taking the blood and the NHS is there for all. The old folks shouldn't have to be shunted into an appointment slot that suits you, OP

Should oaps only leave their homes at times that suit you? What a vile and horrible thread.

Why when I go to the Drs for an early appointment, do I see mothers with very young children. They are obviously SAHM who can go to the Drs any time of day.

While we're at it, why don't surgeries open all weekend and evenings to make things easier for everyone?

Turgiday please, please tell me you're being ironic? You KNOW these SAHM's? Their movements. Their other commitments? Maybe, they're getting their child to the surgery early, so they can the take them to a child minder/grandma's (whatever) so that Mum can go to work for a few hours to earn minimum wage?

The NHS is there for all. It's not for others to dictate when certain people should be seen.

I sort of see your point of view about pensioners but it could apply to anybody who is not fixed to a certain timetable, couldn't it?

The point is this: pensioners, sahms, unemployed may have other things to do as well, so you can't write them all off as being selfish.

But, as a general principle, I suppose anybody without a fixed timetable should consider those that do.

I mean I do know an old person who has to be there early, why, I think? You're not going anywhere, others are.

Jeni - I'm banging my head on the table at your post!

Drank, what a strong reaction to my comment. Do I detect a chip on your shoulder? No I wasn't referring to pensioners actually, but made the mistake of posting it on a thread about pensioners.

If I'd said the exact same thing on a a thread about "entitled" middle class stay at home mums you probably wouldn't have batted an eyelid.

It was aimed at no group of people, just selfishness and inconsideration of other peoples time in general (no skin off my nose I'm there anyway)

OP, you are absolutely VILE for thinking that a clinic that is 'especially for those who have difficulty attending in working hours' should have mostly working people there.
What a DISGUSTING woman you are. How dare you believe what the blood clinic advertised? Totally UNREASONABLE. Who do you think you are? So ENTITLED.
There should be NO SPECIAL CONSIDERATION for anyone: elderly, pregnant, babies, working or not. Equality for all. You're NOT SPECIAL. Anyone can get time off work if it's really important.

I can safely say I go to the post office with not a single thought in my head about whether I am going at the most convenient time for other people. Ditto getting on the tube. Ditto the doctor.

I am just going about my business but apparently as I am a working person, this is ok. If I were a pensioner it would be selfish and thoughtless.

Ha ha. Chip about what?

In "my line of work" I have a waiting list of clients, believe me.

Maybe because I don't see mine as an inconvenience.