to feel really upset about Caroline ahern and lung cancer

[sarahhammer]

I'm horrified to hear people on the radio showing no sympathy for her, just because she smokes it does not make lung cancer self inflicted!

[Alisvolatpropiis]

I feel sorry for her.

There's a genetic link to pancreatic cancer on my fathers paternal side. 10 siblings, 8 dead, all primary pancreatic cancer. My paternal grandmother has had breast cancer.

Strokes all over the places on my mums paternal side and Parkinson's on her maternal side.

Genetics.

Even if it weren't genetics, it is sad. My dp's mum died of entirely "self inflicted" lung cancer 4 years ago. Horrible death.

[Chippednailvarnish]

"So, what first attracted you to the millionaire Paul Daniels?"


Classic, absolutely classic.

I wish her well and hope that if I'm ever unfortunate enough to get cancer nobody holds all the times I've eaten crap food, drank too much, microwaved in plastic dishes, used my mobile phone, applied anti-persperant, sprinkled talcing powder and had unprotected sex, against me.

[frostyfingers]

Swannery that's a bit of a sweeping statement isn't it? I totally disagree with the "serve her right" comments here, they're disgusting and I happen not to be (usually) a Tory voter. Sorry not to fit your box - it's nothing to do with politics, it's about humanity and it seems to be in short supply here.

[frostyfingers]

Arrghh, completely ruined that statement - should read I am a Tory voter.

[Owllady]

I do know what swannery means, there has been more prominence in that kind of attitude/feeling since the coalition came to power.

I see it more most probably because I am a carer of a relative who is severely disabled. Through no fault of their/our own. I am made to make at care reviews (under a cut care package under this government) like it's my own failings that I can't cope. This has only happened since call me Dave was voted in on the back of promising to support those with severely disabled disabled.

This might be off topic, but it relevant to general feeling and lack of empathy during austerity

[ToffeeMoon]

Very funny, talented woman.

"Let's have a heated debate."

[AintNobodyHereButUsKittens]

Where are all those posters saying that it serves her right and they have no sympathy? Did they all get deleted?

[frostyfingers]

Maybe, but I resent the implication that because you vote Tory you are automatically heartless, insensitive and lacking empathy. Over reacting perhaps but still, I do feel a tad offended!

[Sparklingbrook]

I always thought AIBU should have been named 'Lets have a heated debate'.

Don't know whether it's on order to lighten the mood of the thread but I always laugh at this...

[TSSDNCOP]

Frosty not overreacting at all.

As a Tory voter Swannery I find your comment utterly risible and portrays you in the manner of a complete twat.

I wish Caroline best wishes. I love her comedy. No one deserves this bastard disease.

[Owllady]

It's not maybe, that is what is happening frosty fingers. If people are angry about the depth of anger, indignation towards them, they have a right to be.

You may be a nice person,but the people you have voted for have not been fair to many of the most vulnerable people within our society including their carers. Carers are a group of society which is more likely to live in poverty, to have to hear time after time they are rewarding HARD WORKING PEOPLE (who pay tax) makes me teeth itch at best, feel murderous at worst :)

So yes, the well he she smoked, drank, whatever. Is tasteless, insensitive but grates on people who are already struggling because they have had a gutfull

[hackmum]

I'm a big fan of Caroline Aherne. This news makes me feel very sad.

Of course there is a direct correlation between smoking and lung cancer - idiotic to pretend it's not. So there is a sense in which the disease is self-inflicted. It doesn't mean that she "deserves" the disease.

[FoxSticks]

I have nearly posted this a couple of times and then deleted. I posted earlier about my mum dying from lung cancer and the judgement we received. I found the Tory comments pretty distasteful too.

There's been plenty of implied critism hiding in the guise of stating facts aintnobodyhere.

[TSSDNCOP]

Sorry about your mum Fox. I'm hiding this thread now.

[TSSDNCOP]

I forgot these

[Owllady]

I'm sorry I didn't mean to upset anyone

[grocklebox]

you can have compassion and still acknowledge a persons role in their own illness. You dont become a saint because you get cancer.
I smoked for years. Ive stopped now, but if I get lung cancer, it will be in the main, my own fault.
I'll still deserve sympathy, empathy, help, support, etc. I don't need to pretend it has nothing to do with me.

[Sparklingbrook]

But if you do nobody will be discussing it being your fault on an internet forum grockle.

[Owllady]

Or your own family, unless they are Tories

That was a joke

[Owllady]

God that sounds awful! It was a joke
[Digs own grave]

[ShadyLadyT]

Hackmum -as I said upthread (so have many others), 10% of lung cancer is contracted by never smokers like my late DH. That is thousands of people in the UK alone, every year.

It's so glib to say it's just a disease that smokers get, ergo it's self inflicted.

I have immense sympathy for all lung cancer sufferers and their families.