to be absolutely furious about football chief and emails referring to women as 'gash'??

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Sorry if there are other threads about this, couldn't find any.

Richard Scudamore, head of the Premier League, has been merrily sending emails referring to women as 'gash' and 'skinny big-titted broads', 'irrational' and lots of other incendiary misogynist shite.

Oh but he's apologised. That's nice eh, nothing to see here

Apparently he reports to the Premier League Board, which is two people, one of whom is errrrrr Richard Scudamore

AIBU to think an apology is nowhere near enough and he should bloody well resign?

It's been reported that the Premier League's women's officer has been told not to make any comment. Wouldn't want the shiny-suited money-making boys' club to be unnecessarily disturbed by any harpies would we

Anyone for a Premier League boycott next season? (Congrats to Man City by the way) How about we all give our money to the women's game instead

"He also mocked "female irrationality" and forwarded one joke from a pal about a prince who "banged skinny big t**d broads".

In one email he wrote: "You will learn over time that female irrationality increases exponentially depending on how many members join your family.

"That should keep you within the Chinese government's one child per family enforcement rules. Very clever those Chinese."

Sorry if this has been c n' p before.

IN what known universe can anyone in a position, power and influence where there is a mixed gender representation even begin to argue that they should not resign their position. And of course this will not be the first time RS will have made jokes/mailed his backward views, as likely as not.

of course on a personal note, the female members of his immediate and extended family must be very proud and gratified.

He also mocked "female irrationality"

To be fair that a woman is apparently prepared to share a house/life/air/bed with any man who thinks as he does about women probably reinforces his view of female irrationality.

Lady Macbeth is a fictional construct created by a man. And I never noticed anyone accusing Mrs Thatcher of (s)mothering the nation.

Mrs Thatcher was one of those women who 'forsook her femininity' inorder to get the job done... if you wish to see any string woman from that perspective (I think there may have been an assumption that I believe the smother mother scenario is 100% true, whereas I find it an interesting description of a certain type of strong mother - again mediated through men).

Sirchenjin describes the 'versons' of strong women well, I would ask what arena, is it traditionally 'female'?

I did say broadly speaking, stereotypically and that it gets sticky when you try to discuss it online. You can pick every word apart, we can counter any argument but it comes down to nature vs nurture and the inevitable fact that 'Men come from Mars' was not a throw away statement.

Outself (and here I will end my derailment, sorry) I believe the biological imperative is shaping social behaviours and in turn reinforcing and being reinforced my social mores. I cannot divorce one from the other - that is why some of what I believe sounds old fashioned.

I believe that some of the old fashioned male/female social divisions are at the root of our gendered society. They are, in times of unrest, the genetic imperative being lived. We are, after all, only 70 odd years out of global conflict and have been constantly embroiled in other wars for centuries. But our need for male hegemony is lessening with every decade, here in the UK. But could tip back tomorrow, entirely depending upon the country you live in and the levels of stability at any given time.

A quick look round the world and yiu can see this in action in many countries. It is a good indicator of a country's stability.

(I'll stop now. My hobby horse has been put away)

So we have a powerful man, in a position of huge responsibility, whose job role includes the promotion and development of women, and he writes derogatory, demeaning emails about women while using his work email.

And this genius has the brass neck to mock WOMEN'S irrationality???

Men who use degrading terms about women make my skin crawl...I can't even bear to think how their filthy, grubby minds work ugh! They really are a toxic mess in society. But there is something really skin-crawling about supposed intelligent, older, married men behaving in such a way

I disagree, nomama, but as you say, it's OT for the thread.

Have been reading in the paper that it would be wrong to discipline him for misconduct for writing personal emails.
Regardless, he is not suited to have the job position he holds, promoting women's football, and has made his position untenable. Whether you call it misconduct or loss of trust and confidence or "some other substantial reason for dismissal", he should be sacked.
But he won't be. Because other men like him believe women to be fundamentally different from men and basically put in the world to provide them with opportunities to have sex. So what's wrong with emailing about them in those terms?

Men who use degrading terms about women make my skin crawl

I also find it deeply unpleasant, but I think that it is sometimes a way that men 'bond' they emphasise their common interests by deriding women, similar to the corporate visits to lapdancing clubs.
It's to do with excluding women and reinforcing masculine solidarity.

I'd like to think that to most people that sort of behaviour looks puerile and anachronistic, but then again I'm not so sure :(

On the good side, he was loudly boo-ed by the crowd when he presented the Premiership trophy to Man City on Sunday. That will have left an impression on the Prem authorities.

On the good side, he was loudly boo-ed by the crowd

Was he really?

Goodness, football crowds have just gone up a notch or two in my estimation.

Oh, that is good news - the booing. I'm another one newly impressed by football crowds.

As much as it pains me to say, Man City crowds are the far more community-based and "ethical" when it comes to supporters imo so it was unfortunate for RS he was appearing at their stadium.

I'm really pleased about that.

But fortunate for football, Pan.

Indeed. It was the worst/best place for him. My lot (the evil empire across the canal) wouldn't have batted an eyelid.

Really, he was booed?

He is so lucky there is so much going on in football at the moment (or Praps not luck!) this story has hardly been anywhere.

Pretty much across the sports pages in the last few days

I read a quote yesterday from a member of Fifa condemning this. English football is in a bad place when Fifa can take the moral high ground.

English football is in a bad place when Fifa can take the moral high ground.

Never a truer word said!

The bigwigs at FIFA probably squeaked with excitement at the opportunity.

I looked for it in The Times and on the BBC but couldn't find it...

There was a little piece in the Independent, saying he should be able to say what he wants in personal emails.

And to think all this is happening against a backdrop of England trying to bid for the 2019 women's world cup. Please. This guy really should have some shame.

Would it be appropriate to update his Wikepedia page about the response to this?
There is a small entry but not much said...