To think that this is too many hours for one person to work!

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Teaching...this time of year...nightmare.

My working week:
Monday (Bank Hol): 10-7
Tuesday: 8-8
Wednesday:8-9
Thursday: 8-1(AM!)
Friday: 7-8

And in tomorrow 11-4!

Shattered doesn't cover it!

69 hours is ridiculous. I personally work 60, but not in a high stress position. I know plenty of people who work 70+hours a week. Doesn't make it right though. Work/family balance seems to be so much better in the rest of Europe.

Maybe you would prefer to be a Community Care Worker? Then you could work from 6.30am to 11pm 12 days out of 14. All for the precious reward of minimum wage and the security of a zero hours contract.

I'm really not trying to play 'Shit Hours Top Trumps' but at least your hours are not that bad all year round like they are in some jobs.

I would have sympathy but it's your chosen career path and a career well known for its bizarre hours.

It's like an A&E doctor coming on and moaning they've worked a double shift or a police officer doing the same.

Some jobs you expect to put in extra hours because that's the nature of the job.

Finance workers - year end ring any bells?

Sorry but everyone works in jobs that could result in antisocial hours, but if it's a profession you've chosen and trained for you don't go into it blindly expecting to clock in at 9 and clock out at 5

I work well over my contracted hours (NHS), it's getting more difficult as I get older. It's not a 4 Yorkshiremen contest but I understand where you're coming from.

Career rethink too late for me, maybe you should look at you options.

Had a feeling the whole teachers hours thing might crop up! I know we get a bad press but hey you are right I trained for this because I wanted to do it...and years later I still love working with the kids. Not job moaning just a general indulgent moan about tiredness, not teaching.
Many of you are right, hours for almost all jobs have gotten longer. Sad really, work/life balance for all seems to be slipping

I think it's really sad that 50/60+ hours is seenas normal in any profession. Unless your job is your life and you don't want to do anything else outside of it, then those kind of hours are horrible.

I'm a fairly hardworking type of person but you'd have to pay me A LOT of money to work that much!

Pumpkin, you're right. I worked 300 hours last week. Tsk at your 55.

On a serious note. I do 49 ish 7-4.45 and til 7/7.30 on a Tuesday. I don't get paid terribly or well iykwim. So I don't think it too much per se but do keep an eye out as you must keep a good work life balance.

DM and DGramdma were teachers. Really do understand how hard it is

Never mind the holidays make up for it

It's a lot, but seems like a normal week to me. YANBU to be tired though. Some days I don't want to get up.

scottishmummy too difficult to resist temptation to say: what holidays? Half terms don't actually exist, just catch up on work and marking. Summer hols is getting everything ready for next year, coursework, schemes of work, setting up and equipping dept
Was not my intention to turn this into a teaching thread! Just can't stand this misconception

My dad was a teacher until three years ago. He started in 1971. I didn't go to his school but I've heard ex pupils talk about him (without knowing who I was) and he was apparently an awesome teacher. He was very clever and knew his subject inside out but didn't do anything near that amount of hours.

He collected us from our primary school as his finished 15 mins earlier so clearly no late finishes. He maybe did about two hours marking on a Sunday. I don't remember him doing any work in the holidays as we would go away for long road trips for weeks.

Yet his results were amazing and he was truly an inspirational teacher. Why do teachers do so many hours now? How much better does it make them?

Paperwork, planning, reviews, targets, performance related pay, ofsted, marking, data collection, parents evenings, school productions, clubs.
More and more stuff to do.

Sadly many of which aren't the inspirational bit, the bit working with the kids. The majority of whom are a pleasure to teach and are awesome people.

I'm pretty sure the others working long hours. Doctor, banker are being paid a hella lot more for their trouble!
Op speak to your manager. That is too much. You need help with your work load.

Yes it is too many hours.

People are just really jealous of the holidays you get I think.

Sympathies from me..hope it calms down soon.
I appreciate your obvious dedication.

You need to look at a stage hours but if that's anything like normal then I wouldn't do it for teacher pay. The person in banking working 8-6, that sounds like pretty good hours for the sector.

I'm a lawyer and do 9-6 normally with very few weekends (a couple a year maybe). I'm in house though, partly because I couldn't hack the crazy hours at the city firm I used to work in.

So much more work to do these days.

Even in FE.

We used to teach and prep our learner for exams and then be the interlocutors with external examiners coming in at the end of the year (teach EFL/ESOL and we do reading, writing and speaking exams).

We now have to be interlocutors and examiners too for all exams. And IVs. It is a massive amount more work for no more money or time. We have changed examining board too from a fairly decent internationally recognised one to a pretty crap one with exams that we keep finding mistakes in!!

I am spending more and more time at home working and marking, I love teaching and have been doing it for nearly 20 years but it is depressing how much importance is now pinned on paperwork and not teaching.

Yet his results were amazing and he was truly an inspirational teacher. Why do teachers do so many hours now? How much better does it make them?

Because they are expected to do far, far more than your dad was in the 70, 80s, 90s.... The scandal is that no, it doesn't make them better teachers, or schools better places. However, jobs ( and pay) require it.

Most professionals don't get paid for the extra hours. Nobody in law or banking that I know of. I literally don't know anybody except one friend who works in a shop who gets paid depending on actual hours worked.

2 years ago I had 6 months off sick due to workload. Since my return I decided not to do as much, and to cut corners wherever possible. It has made no discernible difference to progress, I am usually judged outstanding, and am on for a bumper cropof results this year.

This time of year is hideous in terms of coursework, but we are nearly there! Is all the work absolutely necessary? I only ever mark project work twic. Once at the end, and once half way through. The kids mark it themselves nearly every lesson

Come and be HGV drivers! I earn 22K for 40 hours pw listening to the radio with an hour's workout every day, and today out of sheer greed I'm going to have a rural outing for £150. If I'm lucky, I'?l have the Gloucester Old Spot sausages at the Vale Café.

Yes others work the same, the comment made earlier about doctors annoyed me though. I am paid more but my professional outgoings are huge. I pay almost £ 600 a month for medical protection in case I get sued. This is a condition of a license to practice (which I also pay for along with a number of others). I would also offer that maybe my job is a little more stressful. Not that it's a competition but if you are going to compare apple's and oranges then you must take other factors into account. Oh and I don't get overtime.

A lot of people in other industries work those kinds of hours, week in, week out, and with only 3 or 4 weeks' hold per year.

It is too many hours to work in a week. Where is the time to spend with family, friends, leisure time etc. I think it's sad that long hours are being accepted as the norm nowadays. I'm sticking to my 15-22.5 hours per week.

Thre are some amazing teachers out there, but you don't have a monopoly on moaning about your hours, pay/conditions.

I work on average 60 hours a week, have a team of 30 and can be anywhere in the UK during the week, as well as bringing up an 8 year old on my own. I don't have the luxury of 13 weeks holidays and don't have the tax payers of the UK contributing towards my pension. I also have Ofsted to deal with.

I really love my job and if I didn't I would change profession, rather than moaning about it.