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Smear test

113 replies

Snowwhite22 · 07/05/2014 20:23

Aibu to tell you all I had a smear test today?

The nurse was lovely, it wasn't embarrassing and it didn't hurt.
Nurse said she still can't convince some of her patients to have it done.

When it's your turn ladies, make sure you go, it might save your life!

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OMGimamum · 08/05/2014 10:28

Sorry for typos on mobile & feeding dd.

mumofboyo · 08/05/2014 11:27

Yes, I can see your point Cate that the original smear didn't save my life and perhaps did lure me into a false sense of security. I do believe the 2nd smear did; the gyneacologist performed an internal examination (which was awful - really painful and upsetting) and said I had cervical erosion, most likely caused by my having been on the Pill for 11 years at that point. He took some swabs to check for infection (negative) and did a smear 'just in case', saying that he didn't expect it to show anything untoward. I do believe that the 2nd smear did have a part to play in detecting the cancer as early as they did. Perhaps I should have put this in my 1st post but thought it was already long enough!

Sidge · 08/05/2014 11:49

I'm a practice nurse and do between 1-5 smears daily.

It is absolutely a woman's choice as to whether or not she chooses to take part in the cervical screening programme. I would never persuade, bully, cajole or threaten a woman to have a smear.

However I do believe a woman should make the decision with as much information available to her as possible.

A smear test is NOT a test for cancer.

A smear test should not be done in a GP surgery if you have symptoms suggestive of cervical pathology such as bleeding between periods, bleeding after sex, unusual discharge, pain or pelvic discomfort - the woman should be referred to gynaecology where a smear may be done as part of a full assessment and investigations.

Using tampons and pads (or using a new type of tampon or pad) will not cause cervical changes. High-risk HPV is a significant factor in the development of abnormal cells. Not all smear samples are screened for HR-HPV, there are certain criteria that need to be met that would mean the lab test the cervical cells further for HPV.

A smear test only screens cells in and around the os of the cervix, it can't tell you anything about what is going on higher up in the cervix or inside the uterus, endometrium, ovaries or Fallopian tubes.

A woman who has never been sexually active is entitled to a smear should she wish, however her risk of cervical changes is considered low.

Some of the stories mentioned above horrify me, such as women being held down for a vaginal examination or smear, being threatened with removal from a GP list for choosing not to take part in cervical screening. They are utterly unacceptable.

If you choose not to take part in cervical screening you can ask your surgery for a form to sign asking to be removed from the call and recall list for screening, then they will stop inviting you and you won't receive repeated invitations. You can opt back in at any time.

RedToothBrush · 08/05/2014 12:02

PicandMinx thank you.

The nurse shouldn't convince her patients. The nurse should offer a smear test.

Too many women are put off visiting their GP/nurse appointments because they fear being pushed into having a smear test. It should always be optional. Lots of women hate them. I understand. I'm a practice nurse and even I don't have them!

I wish more people understood the idea of informed consent and not applying undue pressure (including some very nasty peer pressure - some of which has appeared on this thread).

I also wished women understood that screening is different to a smear being done on the basis of symptoms. One has a much stronger case than the other. Its about arming yourself with information about various issues. I note that it sounds like mumofboyo falls into the group where it wasn't screening...

Its not necessarily the smear test itself which is the real issue, but how screening is marketed and pushed which can be damaging and in fact, probably puts some women more at risk (not just of cervical cancer, but of other illnesses because they just avoid the doctor full stop) by the drive for cervical screening being so aggressive and so insensitive. Adverts which use children as emotional blackmail to 'encourage' women are just one example of frankly, unethical marketing and undue pressure. They should be banned as they infringe the principles of consent enshrined in law in this country.

CateBlanket · 08/05/2014 12:11

here is the article I was looking for explaining why a GP doesn't have smear tests

Women need to have all the information available before making the decision to be screened or not rather than being told to get a grip and have it done.

Northumberlandlass · 08/05/2014 18:35

Red - nasty peer pressure?

RedToothBrush · 08/05/2014 18:37

You don't think telling people to 'get a grip' is rather nasty?

NobodyLivesHere · 08/05/2014 18:43

as someone who's life most definitely was saved by the cervical smear programme and who's 35 year old cousin passed away last year from cervical cancer, i do find it really hard to understand why people dont take part in the screening. i understand that for some people its scary and invasive and i'm really sympathetic to those with abuse in their pasts etc i really am, but women who just dont bother baffle me. i'm going to have a read of the links posted to see what it is i'm not understanding.

poshme · 08/05/2014 18:46

I finally had a smear after a long time. When I saw the nurse she asked why I'd delayed- I explained that the previous one had been uncomfortable (and a bit painful- possibly because I have suffered from vaginisimus in the past)
She was really lovely- was slow & careful and talked to me constantly about whether I was ok.
The previous nurse had been the opposite. If you don't like the nurse- get someone different.

GatoradeMeBitch · 08/05/2014 19:01

The only thing that makes me uncomfortable about smear tests is that the nurse always has a good long look at my bits before she gets on with it. If they've 'seen' it all before what is she gawping at? Angry

GatoradeMeBitch · 08/05/2014 19:02

It's always the same nurse by the way. If my fanny stopped everyone in their tracks then I'd have to think the problem was with me!

oneperfectlimousine · 08/05/2014 19:11

"The language of "must" and "don't be silly, it only takes a second" can be really triggering for women who have issues around consent. I know most of us don't but please can we not minimise the difficulty some women experience or treat this as an imperative?"

Exactly this: thank you.

Normalisavariantofcrazy · 08/05/2014 19:22

I'm having a long over due one on Monday

Just to let you all know you cannot have a smear for 3 months after a pregnancy, miscarriage or abortion.

I didn't know until I rocked up for mine 2 months post mc and was turned away by the nurse. It gives false results.

AndreasVesalius · 08/05/2014 19:57

Personally, and I don't say this lightly or for affect, I am quite prepared to take the consequences of not letting anyone perform a smear test on me. If this is death, so be it. I'm an adult, I can make this decision for myself.

Weathergames · 08/05/2014 20:00

The vaccine only vaccinates against 1 type of Cervical
Cancer caused by the HPV virus .

Toothytwo · 08/05/2014 20:13

I was questioned about how many men I'd slept with (not many in my opinion!) during a smear and lectured about increased risk as a result. That put me off smears for a while.

We were living in Ireland at the time so I also had the pleasure of paying for it (the smear, not sleeping with men Grin ).

TequilaMockingbirdy · 08/05/2014 20:19

I haven't had one yet as I'm too young, but have no worries about them. I've had internal exams including speculum and cameras so I suppose it can't be much worse.

MrsSkilly · 08/05/2014 20:21

My best friend had her smear test when she turned 25 and found she had cervical cancer. 3 months later and she was forced to make the decision not to have children and have a radical hysterectomy. I can't stress enough how important it is to have a smear test as soon as is allowed and it makes me so cross when people just ignore it thinking it won't happen to them.

aermingers · 08/05/2014 20:34

Wow. I love being patronized, thanks OP!

TequilaMockingbirdy · 08/05/2014 20:36

She hasn't patronised anyone. She was trying to be nice. Some people actually do need prompting on these things.

Snowwhite22 · 08/05/2014 20:52

I wasn't patronizing anyone, I was sharing my experience. If that helps anyone to go and get a smear then it was worth it.

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AndreasVesalius · 08/05/2014 20:55

I don't quite understand why it is anyone else's business which medical procedures a woman does or does not consent to have carried out on her own body.

PicandMinx · 08/05/2014 20:57

IMO, I think that the word "prompting" is extremely patronising in this context. Women are bombarded with cervical screening information from the moment they reach adulthood.

I know your hearts are in the right place but comments like " get your smears ladies, it may save your life!" are quite frankly irritating.

Snowwhite22 · 08/05/2014 21:01

It might irritate you or it might help some one book an app. I really wasn't doing it for any other reason than to try and help people. Sorry if that offends you.

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ForeskinHyena · 08/05/2014 21:01

Had mine today too! I wasn't really worried about it, having had 3 DCs I have no worries about people poking around down there Smile

It was so quick, literally 10 seconds of actual 'test', the rest was dressing and undressing.

I know it's easy to say when there are people with genuine concerns but really, such a tiny thing that could save your life, I can't see why anyone wouldn't do it.