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To despair that my child's 8-month cough cannot be cured?

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puntasticusername · 07/05/2014 13:08

DS1 is age 3. He is generally very fit and healthy. Last October he had the flu vaccination and soon after, caught the first in the usual winter procession of endless coughs and colds. Since then, I don't think he's had longer than a week or so at a time without a cold.

The worst thing, however, is the cough. Since October he has regularly coughed during the night and when he first gets up in the morning. Sometimes better and sometimes worse, but it never entirely goes away. It seems to have worsened just lately - twice now he's woke up coughing uncontrollably for several minutes, before vomiting mucus everywhere. The mucus is thin and clear (doesn't look infected).

He's been seen by two GPs and a consultant paediatrician (most recently, just a couple of weeks ago). Paed ordered blood tests, which came back clear except for low iron, so DS has now been on iron supplements for two months. These seem to have helped his energy levels, but the cough remains.

Every time they listen to his chest, they say it is clear and that the only thing to do is wait for him to stop catching all these winter colds. He also has inhalers - Ventolin and a steroid - which he takes morning and night, with more Ventolin during the night if he wakes coughing. This seems to help for a few hours, but in the long run the fucking cough just.won't.go. It doesn't seem to be a wheezy sort of cough - they said if it was then stronger steroids might help, but me and DH don't think it is.

Is this right? Is there anything else that could be done for him or do we really just have to wait this out for however long it might take? I have no idea what the answer is, but surely the might of Western medicine must be able to come up with more than this to help my poor little boy?

Thanks for reading - any advice, opinions and ideas would be appreciated!

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puntasticusername · 07/05/2014 13:46

But there is no space in my freezer...there's going to have to be some sort of a rota... Smile

Next fine day, I'll wash the lot of them and get them all dry in the sunshine. I'll try and do it when he's not around, though. It caused a LOT of consternation the last time I insisted that a Teddy needed a bath in the washing machine and then a nice blow dry on the line. Poor little DS spent all afternoon trying to climb the pole and rescue him...

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DIYtrainee · 07/05/2014 13:49

Definitely a referral to an ENT - DS was ill with throat and ear infections every 3 weeks through the SUMMER he turned 2.

Turned out he had to have a tonsillectomy, adenoids trimmed, and grommets put in.

If your DS doesn't have a major infection (and I suspect if he had they would have found it) then just the adenoids would cause a similar amount of problems - however they can only guess at adenoids, the ENT said he ASSUMED they would be large but would only know for certain with an operation - he was right, they were enormous.

DS used to sleep with his mouth wide open, head right back, to get enough air into him.

I could hear him breathing wherever I was in the house it was that loud.

DIYtrainee · 07/05/2014 13:49

Oh, and the GP really resisted the referral btw. You may have to push.

whatadrama · 07/05/2014 13:49

Keep pushing, we bought a new mattress which we wrapped in plastic in case it was hidden chemicals, new bedding, new hepa filtered hoover, watched all food he was eating and even contemplated rehoming the dog in case it was that.

I had a thread on here because i was so scared and dint know where to turn.

I cried with relief when the hospital phoned with the xray results having been made out to be over anxious parents for 7 months Hmm

A simple xray which took 2 minutes sorted Ds out in the end.

LadySybilLikesCake · 07/05/2014 13:50

That's really sweet Smile. Would he be agreeable to his teddy's going to sleep in an air tight tub when he's at school/nursery during the day? They can all cuddle each other and it will keep the dust off them so they will need washing less Wink

softlysoftly · 07/05/2014 13:51

I would also allow a course of steroids they can't actually do any harm and may help.

I have asthma and if I let it get away from me no amount of inhalor can get it back in line. My main symptom is a persistent cough. Just finished my 5 day course of steroid tablets actually and cough gone. Note need to manage it ongoing with my inhalers.

puntasticusername · 07/05/2014 13:51

I'm on it!

Will do all the other things suggested too - humidification, fighting dust and ensuring good ventilation. I did try the Vicks on his feet once, it didn't seem to help unfortunately.

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bombolina · 07/05/2014 13:52

I read once that asthma is often overdiagnosed in children and rather quite often kids have an underlying chronic bronchial infection. Just isnt picked up as readily. Wr had similar to you for about 2 years with our ds. Steroids never worked.for him.
Eventually after a particularly.nasty episode he had a longish course of antibiotics andn his cough cleared up. Hasn't h
ad one for nearly two years now.

JSG07 · 07/05/2014 13:53

Might be a stupid idea (or already mentioned, haven't had time to read whole thread!) but my MIL had a cough for literally years, had all sorts of investigations, could not be solved. Eventually she started taking antihistamines and it went away - turned out it was an allergy cough. Might be worth considering?? Hope you get it sorted soon anyway :)

puntasticusername · 07/05/2014 13:54

Oh drama, that sounds awful. I hope it doesn't come to that for us, but who knows! Good idea about the plastic teddy bed Sybil, can definitely do that.

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KnittedJimmyChoos · 07/05/2014 13:59

In cases such as this, on going, stressful and seemingly un solvable does it not make sense to rule things out, by doing things such as X rays?

My dd has had nasty fruity cough, put on anti B's, then she had a good cough before last appt, so her chest sounded clear Confused. no more anti b, her cough has really taken hold now...and back on them! now she is wheezing Sad.

the docs only see them for a small snap shoot

whatadrama · 07/05/2014 13:59

Just another quick thought, have they given your Ds any anti Bs?

We were given amoxicillin which made no difference to Ds and further reinforced the Drs opinion of there being nothing physically wrong with him because as far as they were concerned his chest sounded clear.

Once diagnosed after the xray he was immediately given clarithromicin (sp?) from the hospital which worked like magic within a couple of weeks!

Apologies for my spelling of the meds!

Lucyitsme · 07/05/2014 14:05

I am in same boat, my DD has had a persistent cough for months, we have moved house recently so discounting environment a bit. Tried humidifier but worried about room getting too damp if used a lot so use sparingly, (its a Vicks one and is good) babies room is small so at night I open the door to get more air and think that's made a difference but still a lot of coughing, I tried leaving a bottle of water in cot for her but made no difference. Hearing her cough and thrash around at night is awful and she is often tired.

I am on verge of asking for a chest X-ray tbh, I have been to GP about her cough six times since August, I got antibiotics for her once, several months ago and it helped but cough hasn't really gone away. I will try piriton tonight as per JSG07's suggestion.

DoJo · 07/05/2014 14:07

We have put a humidifier into my son's room with some Olbas oil in it, and that has really helped his cough (along with the other things - dusting regularly, inhaler before bed, elevating the end of his bed etc). It's worth a try and we open the windows first thing in the morning to let some fresh air in, let the humidity out and air the room before he sleeps in it again.

Theyaremysunshine · 07/05/2014 14:26

Nocturnal cough, frequent colds, heavy snorer.

Needs ENT referral to check the adenoids. I would push for this. Does he ever have periods of apnoea at night, wondering if he has any obstructive sleep apnoea too?

I'd recommend videoing him snoring/mouth frothing and coughing if you can to take to the ENT consultant. It'll really help. Worth the sleepless night or dull evening.

Won't harm to go mega dust free though, and if money not tight get rid of the carpet and use laminate. Worth trying piriton one night to see if it helps - would then indicate towards allergy.

Good luck

puntasticusername · 07/05/2014 15:58

No, have never had antibiotics for this. I'm aware of all the issues around antibiotic overuse so it hasn't been top of my list of things to push for, in the absence of any direct evidence that it is likely to help, but I'll keep it in mind. Thanks.

I think the main thing this thread has given me is the confidence to return to the doctors and say no, this is NOT normal and there IS more we can try to do about it. Many thanks again, everybody.

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Swisskissingisbetterthenfrench · 07/05/2014 17:03

Issues with Dairy? Long shot.

puntasticusername · 07/05/2014 17:15

Ooh, maybe. He's had dairy from 7.5 months old though. I know nothing about allergies - can they develop over time that way?

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Mitchell2 · 07/05/2014 17:28

I have a long term persistent cough, worse at night and was diagnosed with Post Nasal Drip (very sexy). Basically when mucus runs down the back of your throat consistently. Mine is caused by allergies - so antihistamines help, as does using a salt water nasal spray in the evenings to clear everything out - which maybe a bit too much for a 3 year old though.

puntasticusername · 07/05/2014 20:25

Ah, I think the consultant suggested it might be the persistent nasal drip when we saw her last. We have saline spray so can get him to use that, no problems (he's very good with medicines luckily).

Have now discussed with DH and we agree that we will first pursue the allergies angle, and get his adenoids checked out as all the symptoms ring a lot of bells with what we're seeing. If that fails, we'll push for x rays and maybe antibiotics. He says thanks very much to you all too!

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tinysleepy · 07/05/2014 21:28

Another long shot but do you have any air freshners in the house? They make my usually very well-controlled mild asthma bad really quickly and I just can't stop coughing. Plug in Glade type ones seem to be the worst or those ones on automatic spray every few minutes.
Just a thought....

tinysleepy · 07/05/2014 21:39

Another long shot but do you have any air freshners in the house? They make my usually very well-controlled mild asthma bad really quickly and I just can't stop coughing. Plug in Glade type ones seem to be the worst or those ones on automatic spray every few minutes.
Just a thought....

Obstacles · 07/05/2014 21:52

Another possibility for a cough like this is reflux. Dd had a persistent cough at night for months and months. Turns out it was reflux causing liquid to rise up into her throat. She wasn't in pain but it caused a cough. She was diagnosed at about 20 months with a dairy allergy. She had to take meds and exclude dairy.

PersonOfInterest · 07/05/2014 22:09

As you feel his cough is getting worse (since seeing the Paed by the sound of your OP) and he is now also bringing up a lot of mucus, I think you are totally justified in going back to your Dr.

Perhaps you could ask to be seen by someone who deals more specifically with respiratory complaints (in children).

TiredFeet · 07/05/2014 22:26

Keep pushing for answers.
We got dismissive replies again and again for my sons persistent (especially at night) cough, GPs kept saying it was nothing unusual, until he ended up in high dependency with flu aged 3. Turns out he is asthmatic, but his only symptom is the cough, he's rarely wheezy. Inhalers didn't do the trick alone but now he has montelukast granules as well and they have been amazing, no more night time coughing after only a couple of weeks use! And we had so many drs tell us it was just normal! Poor boy the paediatrician pointed out he has a harrisons sulcus (a v specific chest shape) due to his body struggling so long with the undiagnosed asthma