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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Or is my employer?

16 replies

WaywardOn3 · 06/05/2014 10:44

I work part time in a small company, we're minimally staffed with only 2 people on each shift.

Recently 3 of full time team members have left but our employer is only willing to hire one full time and one part time team member to replace them, stating that since there will be 4 part timers we can pick up the extra shifts. This means that if someone is on holiday and someone else is off sick on the same day that one of these 'unstaffed' shifts needs covering then either 3 of the 4 part timers will need to make themselves available or a full timer will need to work 6 days with 2 part timers on.

I made it clear in my interview that doing more than the occasional extra shift would be difficult as I only have childcare for the days I'm contracted to work (friend one day (I look after her dc on one of my days off in return)/PIL the other). In fact all of the part timers have other commitments that will make picking up between 7-8 extra shifts a week (not including holiday cover or sick cover) difficult, it's why we chose part time work.

Employer won't listen though and fully expects all these shifts to be covered. If they aren't then it puts staff at risk as we end up with 1 person opening/closing when, for safety reasons, we're meant to have 2 :-(

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WaywardOn3 · 06/05/2014 10:47

He believes that us part time members of staff are being unreasonably difficult, should be glad of the extra money doing these shifts will bring and be more team orientated :-/

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Katrose · 06/05/2014 11:10

YANBU. And if no one wants to cover it's not your fault either. Just take the extra shifts that are convenient for you and leave the rest- it's his problem and he'll realise soon enough!

dreamingofsun · 06/05/2014 11:14

what does it say in your contract about working extra? If you've signed something saying that you are prepared to be flexible and cover periods when other staff aren't available then its really your problem. If your contract just states the hours you have been working then its your employers.

WhoNickedMyName · 06/05/2014 11:19

If you've signed something saying that you are prepared to be flexible and cover periods when other staff aren't available then its really your problem.

No, if staffing levels have changed significantly since then, it's not your problem.

Agree with Katrose, do the shifts that suit you and let him worry about the rest.

TantrumsAndBalloons · 06/05/2014 11:25

When you are asked to do an additional shift just say no, I can't do that day.
If everyone does that, then he will need more staff.

You can't be forced to come in and do overtime, can you?

WanderingAway · 06/05/2014 11:25

Covering periods of staff shortage is different to permantly having to work more hours.

I would work what you can and no more.

dreamingofsun · 06/05/2014 11:26

surely if you've signed a contract saying you will cover for other staff if nec, then you would be in contravention of that contract if you refused.

WaywardOn3 · 06/05/2014 11:53

I thought covering for other staff was for periods of sickness or holiday? Not because my employer won't hire enough staff and is in effect trying to make his part timers full time?

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WhoNickedMyName · 06/05/2014 11:56

Covering sickness, annual leave, unforseen circumstances, etc, is completely different to permanently being expected to cover shifts due to a shortfall in staff because 3 people left and the employer only replaced them with 1 and a half people.

Cover what you want or is convenient, but as for the rest, just say no, you can't do it. Don't give excuses or reasons. Just no.

minibmw2010 · 06/05/2014 11:58

Just keep saying no. Emphasise you aren't trying to be difficult, etc. but you were hired part time and you can't do full time.

WaywardOn3 · 06/05/2014 12:21

Phew I was starting to think I was being unreasonable not putting ds in nursery and doing a 5 day week every week - boss's idea

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Aspiringhuman · 06/05/2014 12:40

He wants you to pay for nursery 5 days a week just in case? If so he's being massively unreasonable. People can't afford that for a start.

WaywardOn3 · 06/05/2014 13:05

At the moment we've not hired the new staff so he suggested that I put ds in nursery 5 days a week and do a 5 day week for 3-4 weeks just until we have more staff. Then do 3-4 days per week to make up for the staff we're not replacing. I've said no but am being made to feel like I'm letting everyone down

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wowfudge · 06/05/2014 13:12

If you do as he suggests then you're leaving yourself open to him saying, 'well you've been working full time for X weeks so you can continue on that basis'. Stick to your guns. Don't give reasons or excuses just say you can't do it.

HopefulHamster · 06/05/2014 13:26

Just say your nursery doesn't have extra hours available (quite possibly due to their own staffing issues - they have to have a certain amount per the kids in there) - this genuinely does happen to me when I need an extra day's cover, quite often.

Joysmum · 06/05/2014 13:31

Call ACAS for free legal advice

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