To eat meat every day?

[Sparrowlegs248]

And ask you for easy alternatives?

Theres just me and DH. I would happily go without meat most days but he prefers meat. Not that he would dare complain....

We do have fish once a week, and omlette once a week but that sometimes has ham or bacon in it.

I do all the cooking and am late home weekdays so tend to go for grilled meat with new potatos and veg as its quick and easy. Or chilli/bolognaise

Any suggestions?

Loads of pasta dishes. It's only one extra pan to serve pesto and bolognaise.

Loads of serious salads (with potato/croutons, avocado, egg, anchovies, capers etc). Just add chicken, bacon, salami for the carnivores.

Fishcakes count as "meat" in my house for some reason best understood by the men.

rooty - Vaccination is a similar example where individual benefit clashes with public good and has been analysed in GT terms, like here. HTH.

Hate pasta. Tofa is poison. Surprised it's sold as a food! Did occasionally have meat free day but that rare. Our teeth mean we meant to gave both meat and veg. Love Fish. Now I'd be happy with just fish and veg...but a good lamb roast with meat sauce..... Happy to leave beef.

Brown lentils are surprisingly meaty.

Chickpeas dishes are also good

Not too hard to have vegetarian and meat curries in the freezer. Again, only one extra pan.

Well it doesn't, Cote because vaccination outcomes are affected by another person's choice ie they are strategic. The possibility you choose not to vaccinate lessens the incentive for me to vaccinate, as the overall effectiveness of vaccines is reduced (approximately). I still don't see how the meat eating analogy holds. Yes, I see that it is a public good question and collective action is the ideal. But all reductions of meat eating in theory improve outcomes for all (and taking health into account, particularly the individual) - but also I think it is much more a case of personal preference than strategy. I am labouring the point - but I stand by what I first said.

Anyway, game theory arguments and pasta recipes, my favourite. I have definitely outed myself

Am I allowed a small chuckle at the less-meat example of a Sunday joint feeding a family of four for three days? That joint comprised, self-evidently, enough meat for 12 meals. The fact that it came from a single animal doesn't make it less meat

I can go with Grovels ideas because they take account of the fact that one person wants to reduce meat and one person doesn't.

Cote - sorry yes I am still here, little brain chugging away - I suddenly see that we possibly disagree not on what game theory is but whether people eat meat because they are free riding.

the point I was making Garlic was that the joint could be your sole meat purchase for the week, and that you could, if you strip it properly, get at least 3 meals from it. That's less than eating meat everyday - isn't it? Sorry if I didn't make that clear.

We don't eat much meat at all, I used to be veggie (just because I don't like a lot of meat) and now eat a small amount but not much.

Typical meals here include:
Breaded fish fillets, mash and beans
Veggie sausage casserole with mash / new pots / rice
Pasta (quorn bolog, quorn pieces and veg or just simply with a nice sauce, added veg and grated cheese on top)
Fish cake with salad and couscous
Prawn pasta pesto
quorn chilli and rice
veggie chilli / lasagne
homemade pizza - everyone choosed their own toppings

We do sometimes have chicken curry or a nice piece of fillet steak, I do steak burgers for the kids / dh and I have quorn ones, same with sausages sometimes....

I'm too old to faff about this, anyway. I visibly wilt if I don't have meat, and a bit of bacon stretched out with lentils doesn't fool my metabolism (I'm supposed to avoid pulses anyway, though I don't due to budgets.) When I were a lass we had meat at all three meals - often four, in fact, since we also had tea and that might include sausages or ham. Until the 70s, the only memories anybody had of meatless meals were from wartime. Then vegetarianism made its appearance, though a lot of 70s vegetarians ate fish

I just wanted to point out that a load of meaningless crap is spoken of how much less meat folks ate in ye oldene dayes. Outside of wars & famines, Brits have always eaten stacks of meat. A 'normal' amount of meat in modern life is way less than any but the destitute have eaten at all points in our history.

Oh, and vegetarian ape primates aren't vegetarian. They eat ants & beetles.

Garlic do you think the that the quantity of meat eaten in one meal is more now than in ye olden days?

When i was a child, if we had sausages, i had 1, brother and sister (older) had 1.5, mum had1 and dad had 3! (he did long hours at a very physical job)

Same with a roast. Oneice of meat. So although we had meat at almost every meal, the amount per meal was much less.

I could be you, I actually don't like eating much meat but my DH cannot imagine a dinner without it. I try to make dishes that I can add meat to: diced chicken, cooked & chopped bacon etc... Things like pasta sauces (primavera, tomato based sauces), chilli, curries, fajitas, lentil soup etc...

I sometimes use quorn instead of chicken in curries as well, I forgot to mention it to DH one time and he failed to notice that it wasn't real meat.

Thanks rainbunny I am going to give quorn a try. Isn't it cheaper and lower in fat?

'D'H is in a right old sulk tonight and doesn't want any dinner. Fine. I've had a carrot chopped into sticks with houmous, and two boiled eggs!

He certainly would not consider it a 'proper' meal!

I do that when the husband isn't here.. just have little nibbles on a plate

I was chatting to the husband earlier about the quorn that we had once which gave us the squits.. He did a shudder as he remembers how rank it was. It does not fool you.

Its a concern gamer as I know some people have violent reactions to Quorn. A friend of mine included. But worth a try.

we don't have Quorn - DH isn't keen (he doesn't really like any kind of meat substitute) it's too low in fat for DD, and as I'm not veggie I don't really want something that isn't meat tasting of meat!

We use canned puy lentils for making spag bol.

I defy your 'D'H not to like halloumi! Mmm, Halloumi burgers rock. Might have to get some for the weekend.

I don't know, Notta. I recall the rule of thumb for a joint was 1lb per person on the bone, and more if you wanted leftovers - which you did; we were hard up and did all the economy stuff. For two adults and two children, then, you'd buy 3kg to have enough left for sarnies & pies, etc. I don't think that quantity implies paper-thin slivers or anything!

It's all changed. As others have said, the meat itself seems to be more watery unless you get lucky. Also, 'cheap cuts', don't make me larf! A few weeks ago I got the urge to do some traditional English peasant cookery, and went to the butcher for scrag end of lamb - supermarkets don't sell that kind of thing, at least not here. I asked him for his smallest useable piece: can't remember what it weighed, but it was pretty small and cost £6.50!!!! The fucker shrank by a good 50% in the slow cooker, and didn't even yield decent jelly from the bones. It made ONE meal. I live in England's best livestock farming area

Could have had two supermarket steaks for that, and used fewer ingredients!

With some regret, I'm grateful for cheapo chickens. I genuinely do get 4 or more solid meals from one of those, for £3. Sorry, hens.

How garlic?? Seriously, its the stuff of MN folklore these everlasting chickens. I buy a free range from Aldo. Its quite big. It does do 5 meals but i mean 5 single meals. I assume you mean 4 meals for more than one person?!

Admittedly i could boil the carcass etc but i don't.

It's worth a try definitely.. I did, I wanted to bulk out the meat with something else but that isn't the answer for us Maybe just use half and half to see what happens first perhaps?

No, just me - and the cat gets lucky I generally do make stock from the carcass, but have eased up on that as my freezer was filling up with beige stew

I get the big aldi chickens (although they don't behave like free range IMO.. the legs come off too easy after cooking).. I get usually a roast dinner for 4, a chicken curry for me and the husband, a sweet and sour chicken for the boys or mild curry and the stock for whatever. You can get a lot of chicken off one of those things and it goes far.

Switch to meat replacements like quorn.

Well that makes me feel better garlic

So gamer you get 8 servings plus stock? Assuming there are two boys. I need to stop giving DH so much chicken....