to want to know why Kevin the Teenage is lying on my sofa and what has happened to my love little boy

[ReallyTired]

Ds has thrown a tantrum because Microsoft Word has not printed his homework correctly. His stupid mum has had the cheap to offer to help him. And his stupid mum wants him to finish homework, do guitar practice before playing Minecraft. His teacher has written rude notes about uncompletion of homework.

My little boy used to be polite and cooperative. Now I got this sullen lump on the sofa.

YANBU. Kevin visits my house fairly regularly too!

Yeah, I've got one of those too.

How old is he?

Kevin just wrote rude things on his maths sheet and then tried to provoke a debate with his mother about the usefulness of Maths. Kevin's mother is keeping her head down and her pecker up.

Welcome to the arse age known at teendom.

They are the awkward squad in all scenarios.

Stay calm, ignore the behaviour but insist on the action you request them to perform.

I got that from Maryz or flow4

It works.

- is this him?

Mine is lovely to me ("yes mum, no mum, can I make you a cup of tea mum") but completely horrific to his brothers.

Are you my sister Really?!
No real advice but stick in there!

Mine is upstairs on the PS4 online. YELLING DOWN THE MICROPHONE. He seems to have found a girl to go out with him. Amazing.

I've just had a similar 'discussion' with DS1.

Looked in his school dairy, asked politely about a piece of homework, he started shouting 'what do you want from me', tears came and he threw his brother's lego model on the floor .

The tears lasted about 20 seconds, he then started raising his voice and I told him to leave the room. He then came back after about 5 minutes to calmly tell me that the particular piece of homework was not due until Friday. Had he just calmly said that in the first place...

Anyway, we have now had a talk and a hug and he has apologised and rebuilt the model.

Learn this phrase and repeat it every time

"That was an instruction, not an invitation to debate. Please do it. Now"

And then, the most important part

walk away

If they follow you, repeat, repeat, repeat.

Say nothing else.

Nooooooooo! I'm cuddling my beautiful, soft, freshly-bathed 4 mo before bed as he occasionally looks up at me adoringly, holding my finger. He'll stay like this forever, right? Right?

Yes I was doing that only yesterday FengMa but somehow he is 15 years old next month. I have no idea how it happened.....

I didn't realise (as a teenager) how uncannily accurate the Kevin the teenager sketches were. Now I have a teenager of my own, I'm all too aware.

I have two.

Actually, they're not too bad (though they have their moments - often after a session if Saints' Row).

Yes, they can be horribly sulky. Yes, one of them has been horrible to their little sister in the last few weeks. Yes, one if them had such a teen tantrum that even MIL (the world's most doting granny) was concerned. But I'm thanking my lucky stars tha so far there are no biggies with school/police.

And occasionally, they'll still snuggle up on the sofa if there's a really good film on (actually probably with their DF, not me). It's a helter skelter? One which smells of BO and Lynx.

I've got one of those too. Unfortunately she's only 11, so it's going to be a rough few years ahead

Actually, mine is lovely. Really huggy, really funny, some useful and humorous insights into school life. Love his new voice. Good times.

He's always been a mardy one, so the tantrums are familiar

Ooh yes. We have a kevinette here. We had tears this morning and a massive strop along with the obligatory 'YOU'RE RUING MY LIFE' because I told her as she had lost her school tie she would be paying for a new one not me. And that £3 pound she has to spend on a tie means that in 2 years (yes 2 whole years) when all her friends are going to reading festival she wont be able to afford it because I made her buy her own tie and she would be a social outcast forever. Sigh.

We played the clip of the night Kevin turned 13 to DS on the night he turned 13, almost a year ago. He found it hilarious and frequently uses the 'Don't bloody shout at me' line (without the bloody!) when we're being nice.

He is lovely, but he has to be asked to help out now, where he used to see something that needed doing and just do it.

watch the kevin the teenager videos on youtube - its like the ghost of Christmas future for all of you with pre teen boys. I just keep re-watching the one where he gets a girlfriend, loses his virginity and comes downstairs the next day and offers to go shopping with his mum and football with his dad. I find it keeps me going when I hear "you are so unfair" for the umpteenth time.

They do eventually rejoin the human species. Promise. Even the pink model, although I have only brought up the blue one myself.

God. I have just showed dd the kevin the teenage clips and she stropped 'is that even supose to be funny mum why do you and dad allways pick on me' and stormed upstairs. Me and dp are laughing. She didn't see the irnony.

My son is twelve so not strictly a teenager, his tantrums tonight have been awful. Please don't tell me that the worse is yet to come.

All right ReallyTired we won't tell you, we'll let you find out for yourself.

In retrospect I think DS was at this worst at 14 but we did not notice the improvement until the corner was well and truly turned.

I found ages 12-16 hideous.

And I had four children in 5 years so they did it all at the same time! *it seemed so nice to have all my babies close together..I'm an idiot )

I am now grey. And like wine. A lot. :)

But they got through it (just one to go and he is autistic and actually FAR easier than the others)

Girls and boys were as bad as each other but miraculously at 17 they started becoming human again, and are now lovely!!!!! Even the one (boy) who stole, lied, swore, smoked , smoked weed, got arrested.... is now a respectable tax paying, rent paying, in a good relationship HUMAN!!

It passes :)