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To think that being a SAHP and being a WOHP both have advantages and disadvantages...

48 replies

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 19/04/2014 15:39

And that we should accept that the choice that works best for our own family and circumstances may not be the right choice for another family and their circumstances?

I have done both, though I wasn't a WOHM for long. There are things that make me very glad I got to be a SAHM, and things that make me hanker to be a WOHM. The one thing I am sure of is that the vast majority of parents make the best choices they can for their family, and that the vast majority also worry about whether they have made the right decision - we all second- third- and fourth-guess our decisions and choices.

I think sometimes, some people fall into the trap of criticising those who,have made the opposite choice to them, because it makes them feel better about their decision if they can 'prove' it is the right decision - because the other decision is 'wrong'. But we don't need to do that.

I genuinely think that mothers, in particular, are already way too good at self-criticism, and we don't need to be getting any more from other people.

Have confidence in the decision you have made - don't listen to critical voices who are trying to put you down to prove themselves right - and let other people make a different decision to you without worrying that their decision makes yours wrong.

Probably not something that people on here need to hear, but I felt like saying it.

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Tweasels · 19/04/2014 16:54

Quite Chaz - no one is questioning whether fathers should or shouldn't be at home and those that do become SAHD are often viewed suspiciously or seen as lazy. Confused It is an issue of equality and as you say the constant sniping does nothing to support the cause.

SDT I know what you mean about the feeding thing. I think the vitriol often comes from people trying to justify their own choices just like this issue. I get the feeling guilty thing too, but I bet that's as a result of societal pressure on women to do everything right. Tisn't fair!

Writerwannabe83 · 19/04/2014 16:55

I always used to think I'd never want to be a SAHP, I could never see what the attraction would be and why a woman would choose that way of life as opposed to having a career and 'playing a role in society' etc. I have a degree, a career I love and my belief was, "Why on earth would I want to give up something so worthwhile and important to just sit at home all day doing housework and making Easter Bonnets?"

Then 4 weeks my son was born (first baby) and my opinion has done a complete 180 already. I know he's very young so I'm probably looking at things through rose tinted glasses but already I cannot bear the thought of one day having to hand him over to someone else just go back to work. Suddenly my degree and career mean nothing to me - how on earth can they when I compare them to how I feel about my son?!

I have no choice but to return to work as we can't run our household on just my husband's wage but I'm not sure I'm going to feel any positivity about it when it does happen.....

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 19/04/2014 17:00

Morethan - you are right. It is such an emotive issue and it is very easy to be very sensitive about it. And I do think that mothers are simply the best at self-criticism and beating ourselves up about decisions to do with our children - I know I am - so we can easily misinterpret what someone else says.

We need some sort of disclaimer - eg. I have made the right decision for my family - Disclaimer - many other family circumstances are available and loving parents can make very different decisions that are just as right for their family as my decision is for mine!

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cardibach · 19/04/2014 17:08

I think I love this thread and all who post on it. Thanks SDT.

Pagwatch · 19/04/2014 17:18

God yes. I so agree.

I try to say this sort of thing on sahm vs wohm threads but it is way less Interesting for those who want a barney.

3DcAndMe · 19/04/2014 17:22

I too have been both a sahm, then a full time working mum, then 9 months of mat leave so back to feeling like a sahm and now working p/t

I would not say either is easier or more difficult than the other

Both have their highs and their lows. You need to do what works for your family at that moment in time!

fidelineish · 19/04/2014 17:52

I couldn't agree more 3DC.

I have been a SAHM, a WOHM and now a WAHM (freelance) and they all have just as many pros and cons, highs and lows, perks and drawbacks; just different ones. It's a shame it isn't obligatory for everyone to do a year of each. We might get less of this ridiculous competitive tribalism if it were Sad

GoAheadMakeMyDay · 19/04/2014 17:54

Agree with you 100% all these other threads just now fighting over who has it easier, who is the better parent etc etc piss me right off!

gordyslovesheep · 19/04/2014 17:55

bloody well said OP x

It's not a competition - we are all doing our best Wine

fidelineish · 19/04/2014 17:58

Here you go goahead Wine

I'll have one too Wine

Thesebootsweremadeforwalking · 19/04/2014 18:02

I so, so agree with LadyCybil on this one. Given a free choice I'd stay home, but DH's salary would give us a such a meagre existence (and put him under pressure as the sole breadwinner) that it isn't really a choice.

I work four days a week, I would love to only work three but my employer has refused and I have no idea how to find another part time job in my line of work. I'm looking but I have to be realistic and accept that I might not.

I certainly didn't choose this.

GoAheadMakeMyDay · 19/04/2014 18:02

Wine cheers ladies. It's been a rubbish day so I'm going to enjoy this one.

scottishmummy · 19/04/2014 18:24

dont expect approbation,why should people praise parents for being parents.dont sulk when not congratulated on choice
Don't bang on being housewife us ardest job in world,it isn't.
dont moan you feel stretched as working parent it goes with the territory
Make an informed choice and get on with it.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 19/04/2014 18:26

That's all true, scottishmummy - but I would add - and don't bash others who happen to have made a different decision to you! - that's all I am trying to say.

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SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 19/04/2014 18:29

Although, it is only human to want a bit of approbation too - it doesn't matter how you spend your days, it is nice to be appreciated.

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scottishmummy · 19/04/2014 18:34

The habitual whine of muthahood undervalued and us ardest job is risible
Get on with your thing,and why would one get approbation simply fir being parent
I didn't get societal approbation when I had no kids,why would I get it as mother

TheWordFactory · 19/04/2014 18:40

Every thing in life has pros and cons and TBH most people don't get a choice to even weigh them up...

If you do get a choice then be glad. Don't try to make out that everyone does, or that they could if only they were as great as you...

scottishmummy · 19/04/2014 18:46

Yes,we make choices based on available options.and not all choices are available
I do think the mythical cut back to be a housewife cook magic feed 26chicken aren't rooted in reality
Bottom line,we all need to be solvent and that will determine available choices

GoAheadMakeMyDay · 19/04/2014 18:48

I don't mind people having a bit of a whinge if they have had a tough day whatever it is they are doing. Don't we all have a moan now and again?

What I have an issue with is the onslaught of vicious attacks against someone else's choice. For example on another thread being a WOHP has been likened to being a NRP with EOW access Hmm

I have a tendency to think that those launching the most scathing attacks are actually very insecure within their own choices and feel the need to not actually defend their own choices but instead rip to shreds a person who has chosen differently from them.

fidelineish · 19/04/2014 18:48

I do think the mythical cut back to be a housewife cook magic feed 26chicken aren't rooted in reality

You're right- it is bloody miserable. I admire anyone who does it through choice.

Owllady · 19/04/2014 21:30

Stop showing off about your flock of chickens Hmm
I only have two, one double yolking after being picked on for a week. Now welcomed as a friend.
Come dustbathe with me, little brown hen

jellybeans · 19/04/2014 22:19

Agree with OP.

I have been f/t WOHM, p/t WOHM and SAHM.

All have plus and minus points.
SAH..lots of time with DC, never missing school stuff etc, less stress (sometimes), easier for other parent-less stress if kids are sick etc but often severe effects on career, pension, people look down on you, get called lazy, may be screwed financially in case of divorce etc
WOH..keep career going, pension (assuming have career and not low waged job and can afford pension), some status, sometimes feel it is a 'break' (not for everyone but i did) but you miss out on stuff with kids, childcare stress, get called bad parent putting job first.

So you cannot win. Therefore choose what makes you happy! Life is short and often difficult. Not everyone has a choice. If you do then you are lucky.

PecanNut · 19/04/2014 23:13

Thanks SDT for posting this OP which says what I've thought a few times about threads on here recently.

YANBU.

So many of us do both these roles at different times in our lives as circumstances change.

In real life I find most people do support each other.

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