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To not know what a chav actually is/means?

70 replies

Chocoholism · 15/04/2014 16:31

As it says, I first heard this word many years ago and I still don't really know who or what kind if person a chav is? My initial image is the people you mostly see on the Jeremy Kyle show. AIBU or is that right?
Is it now a class or is it a way a person dresses? Apologies if this has been asked before. I haven't debated it ever.

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gertiegusset · 15/04/2014 16:32
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ENormaSnob · 15/04/2014 16:40

I always thought it meant more money than taste.

But now there seems to have been a sway towards a nastier meaning. Like jeremy kyle fodder.

NigellasDealer · 15/04/2014 16:42

it is from the Andalucian dialect of spanish, from 'chavale' meaning young boy, used by travelling people, and recently adopted by a wider variety of people to mean 'poorer than us'.
hope that helps.

Aylish1993 · 15/04/2014 16:42

I always got told it meant council house and violent. It was supposed to be the same as a townie haha :)

NigellasDealer · 15/04/2014 16:44

no it does not mean 'council housed and violent' or 'cheltenham average' or 'chelsea avenue' or any of that other stuff that is bandied about.
travelling people use 'chavvie' meaning small boy.

MrsCakesPremonition · 15/04/2014 16:44

It means exactly nothing - because every person you ask will give you a different definition. Making the word meaningless, yet offensive.

Objection · 15/04/2014 16:46

Well none of the above apply to how the word chav used where I live. It isn't based on the persons wealth at all.

A chav is someone who is rude, arrogant and obnoxious and dresses in a tacky way.
For example; everything is bedazzled, tracksuit bottoms tucked into Ugg boots as everyday wear.
Pauls Boutique stuff is largely viewed as "chavvy".
Leopard print also can be viewed as such.
Baseball caps under hoods.
Tons and tons of slap.
Huge hoop earrings.
Sports gear when not doing sport.

NigellasDealer · 15/04/2014 16:47

offensive yes.
my son used to get called a 'chav' in about year three (due to his short blonde hair imo) by some really charming floppy haired children.

Hoppinggreen · 15/04/2014 16:50

I suppose it's what my Nan would have called " common"

Lj8893 · 15/04/2014 16:54

I think there's many meanings of chav.

As an example I would describe Kerry Katona as a chav. Or any of the kids in the film Adulthood.

NigellasDealer · 15/04/2014 16:55

let's face it, it is just a modern and more acceptable way of saying 'common as muck'

Lj8893 · 15/04/2014 16:58

nigellas spot on!

Sparklingbrook · 15/04/2014 16:58

I don't think it means common at all. I think you can do things that can be perceived as chavvy. I am sure my family and i do stuff like that.

It wasn't until MN I realised that people found it very offensive.

arethereanyleftatall · 15/04/2014 17:18

A person who is simultaneously arrogant and ignorant.

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Sparklingbrook · 15/04/2014 17:26

Does it usual? Sad I really didn't think it did. My two DSs look chavvy in their football tops when not playing football but i am not looking down on them IYKWIM.

Watching all the footballers houses on MTV Cribs-some of them are v chavvy-just awful, yet ££££££££s. Confused

thought it was more a taste thing?

MrsDeVere · 15/04/2014 17:28

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Sparklingbrook · 15/04/2014 17:31

Ah ok MrsDV. My understanding is a bit off then.

TBH I haven't heard anyone say it in RL for ages, I don't think the DSs say it-I have not heard them if they have.

IHaveAFifthSense · 15/04/2014 17:35

Leopard print also can be viewed as such. tick.
Baseball caps under hoods. No, but DP often does.
Tons and tons of slap. tick
Huge hoop earrings. tick
Sports gear when not doing sport. do trainers count? If so, tick.

I have passed the chav test. Where do I collect my certificate?

thebodydoestricks · 15/04/2014 17:41

MrsDevere spot on I think.

Horrible word.

Alisvolatpropiis · 15/04/2014 17:43

What Nigella said, essentially.

Sunnydaysablazeinhope · 15/04/2014 17:45

I'm from Essex.

There are many that think for that fact alone that I epitomise it.

I play with that. But basically it's another way to show superiority. Aka judgy ness on here.

Sparklingbrook · 15/04/2014 17:46

Interesting....

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