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In not understanding why Maria Miller is not facing criminal charges?

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NutcrackerFairy · 07/04/2014 13:16

Apparently 80% of voters believe that MM should be thrown out of the Cabinet and forced to give up her Commons seat as punishment for making false expenses claims [according to a recent poll].

Now if a person in receipt of benefits had fraudulently obtained £45,000 of tax payers money I think they would be facing some sort of criminal proceedings as well as being forced to pay back all that is owed and possibly also being fined. Admittedly they may only be required to pay back a nominal sum per week if on particularly low income but the principle is the same.

And if this was someone else in 'normal' employment who had been caught fiddling their expenses [sometimes by a heck of a lot less than £45,000] they would most likely be escorted off the premises, out of a job and possibly facing criminal charges.

So why is Maria Miller let off the hook, only being asked to pay back a fraction of what she obtained fraudulently, keeping her job and not been charged with fraud?

And why the hell is she able to apparently legitimately claim her mortgage interest anyway? On a property she owns, where her parents live and where she is set to make a tidy £1.2 million pound profit [apparently]. Why the fuck are the taxpayers being asked to fund rich MPs second homes? Why can't they stay in a hotel [like other employees who have to travel for work] and claim the cost of this to expenses?

Is it just the tip of the iceberg as per fraud and MPs expenses? Is MM being protected so not too many questions are asked of other MPs and their expenses claims?

I just think it is gobsmacking and infuriating to see what the ruling classes are up to with tax payers money when massive cuts to services and benefits are taking place.

If there is no money in the pot for these then there is no money for MPs to be claiming their mortgage interest surely Angry

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agedknees · 09/04/2014 07:21

Maria miller has resigned. Good.

formerbabe · 09/04/2014 07:47

She has resigned, but apparently because the whole episode has been distracting...

How predictable

Binkybix · 09/04/2014 08:07

And Cameron points out in his reply that she's been cleared of any wrong doing! He just doesn't get it.

littledrummergirl · 09/04/2014 09:06

Of course she should go! If she had an ounce of integrity she would offer her resignation.

If she had an ounce of integrity she wouldnt have done it in the first place.

If the rest of them had an ounce of integrity they would have called in the police.

If the police had an ounce of integrity they would have thrown the book at her.

And they wonder why people have lost faith in our political system.

I am not sure that what she said in parliament can possibly be called an apology, there was no contrition, it only served to show me how she believes it was ok to behave as she did.

This is the lowest of the low. Scum

Pagwatch · 09/04/2014 09:12

I don't understand why, if she was making lots of dosh from screwing her expenses she still seems to buy her clothes from CC.

TruffleOil · 09/04/2014 13:58

Pagwatch that is her greatest crime.

AdeleNazeem · 09/04/2014 15:50

still not taking responsibility.

Jux · 09/04/2014 17:49

I thought the 1922 Committee would be more concerned. They're the ones who actually have to face the public (and try to get re-elected). Cabinet twats don't worry so much.

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MajorJohn97 · 13/04/2014 17:09

YABU Their was no fraud or dishonesty. If you by mistake claim benefits you are not entitled to the rule is that if you pay it back their are no charges. The money she claimed was a mistake. It was her attitude that resulted in her resignation, not her actions.

NutcrackerFairy · 13/04/2014 19:24

Really MajorJohn? I think you might be mistaken.

Benefit claimants who claim what they are not entitled to are regularly charged, particularly for the sums of money which Ms Miller apparently erroneously over claimed on expenses.

Even if you are deemed to have 'negligently' claimed rather than 'fraudulently' you can in the least expect a hefty fine, on top of having to pay back the over claimed amount.

So for Ms Miller to have only been required to pay back a fraction of the amount she over claimed and no other sanction but an 'I'm sorry 'bout that folks' ... well, this just stinks of one rule for MPs and one for the common folk imo.

I think this row is over more than just Maria Miller now, it is about how MPs and their expenses [at taxpayers expense] are treated differently to how ordinary people on benefits and in receipt of tax credits are.

Or indeed ordinary people who work for government departments, NHS, etc...

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