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To think Gill Rapley should be knighted?

116 replies

Happydutchmummy · 07/04/2014 12:39

Ok, so I'm not sure if women can be knighted, maybe she should be Lady-ed, Dame-d or whatever the correct term is...

My second dc has just started weaning and I'm experiencing the joys of blw again. It's just so awesome. I know she didn't 'invent' it, but she did the research, wrote an amazingly clear book and has changed the way that a lot of parents wean their child. Due to her the nhs has changed its guidelines on weaning to be more finger foods rather than purée and many health care professionals now recommend it.

On top of that she hasn't cashed in with a whole range of blw merchandise, there is no official blw high chair, you can't buy Gill Raply branded bread sticks, etc. it's just her book and recipe book but that's it.

Surely she deserves some official recognition for services to babies, and mums who are too lazy to purée

OP posts:
Floralnomad · 07/04/2014 15:30

If you blend / smoothie fruit and veg every portion you put in counts ,if you juice several fruits it only counts as one portion because you have taken away all the fibre . If you are just mashing up veg I would have thought they all count .

StealthPolarBear · 07/04/2014 15:32

Apparently not

SaveTheMockingBird · 07/04/2014 15:42

I did BLW with both of mine, now 5 and 3. It's got it's positives yes. But sometimes purees would have been a whole lot easier! Mine aren't that fussy, although I can't say that I follow the BLW ethos to the letter though anymore as I do encourage my 5yr old to eat his vegetables, as if left him to his own devices he would not eat any veg at all.
It's also not easy to do BLW when you are out and about when baby is young, as it limits where you can eat out i.e no spicy food etc. It requires more planning than puree feeding IMO. If you feed mush, then you just make it yourself and feed it to them, no worries about spiciness, saltiness, balance of nutrition etc.

I prefer the book Complimentary Feeding by Gabrielle Palmer. Now that is a great book on infant nutrition.

thebody · 07/04/2014 15:45

Also not to be a pisser on the parade but lots of kids eat well at 4/5.

This can alter as they get older.

PollyIndia · 07/04/2014 15:48

I think it is common sense really. I never pureed anything and I never read her book. I just thought I'd hate to eat mush so why would I want to feed it to my bab - for me it was common sense. But I am not a panicker and when he coughed stuff up, I didn't think he was about to choke. I think maybe some people get nervous of that which is why they pulverise everything. And it was fine eating out. He just shared mine, made a mess and I cleaned it up before we left. He is still making a mess a year on.

PollyIndia · 07/04/2014 15:49

Sorry, repeating myself and typos - bab should be baby

Floggingmolly · 07/04/2014 16:15

Sorry Stealth, but it's as flora says. If you don't take anything out, how could 7 portions possibly morph into 1?

StealthPolarBear · 07/04/2014 16:18

Thats what I askef on the other thread. It mKes no sense to me. How can the act of blending mean that portions are removed? But apparently it does. 1 apple and 1 banana - 2 portions. If yu blend them a d take nothing out they become one.

Onesleeptillwembley · 07/04/2014 16:19

So someone gives advice to people containing ages old common sense? Nope. Doesn't qualify for a gong, thankfully.

StealthPolarBear · 07/04/2014 16:23

Does this also apply to paul mckenna "eat when youre hungry, stop whdn it's no longer enjoyable" advice?
(Not knocking it, it was a bloody revelation to me!)

Floralnomad · 07/04/2014 16:34

stealth ,I've checked it on the NHS website if you smoothie 80g ( which is an official portion) of banana and 80g of strawberries with some honey/ milk it is 2 portions ,likewise with veg .

StealthPolarBear · 07/04/2014 16:39

I thought so!! Can we tell the people on the seven a day thread then

Floralnomad · 07/04/2014 16:42

No let's keep it to ourselves and let them eat 27 a day ! Sorry OP for hijacking your thread .

KnockMeDown · 07/04/2014 16:43

I don't get this blending two portions makes one portion malarkey - can someone link to the proof of this?

Also, just because you are feeding puree, does not mean you are force feeding until finished! You can mix puree with finger food, and before you know it baby is taking the spoon off you and trying to feed themselves. It doesn't have to be either one or the other - a mixed approach, tailored to suit individual baby and Mum is surely best?

WorraLiberty · 07/04/2014 16:44

Floral Grin

It was always quite obvious to me when my babies didn't want any more puree. They'd stop enthusiastically opening their mouths when the spoon came towards them.

StealthPolarBear · 07/04/2014 16:45

No. Ive queried it on many a thread and always been told its the case. The blades break down the goodness. Apparently teeth dont. Tbh I find the whole thjng confusing.

NiMhurchu · 07/04/2014 16:46

Yes I think she deserves some recognition!

DS is now nearly 9m and eats anything I set in front of him, if he doesn't want it that's fine.

When I was pregnant with DS I signed up for all the usual websites in the hope for some freebies. Heinz, cow and gate, aptimel, pampers etc

Since they knew ds's due date they knew his approximate age, computer generated or not. When he was around 4m old I got LOADS of weaning advice, leaflets and coupons. I wasn't planning on weaning until 6m so hadn't yet looked into any weaning advice at that time. I flicked through the books and leaflets, start with fine purées blended up. Introduce new bland foods one by one every few days, by 7m your baby should be eating more textured foods or lumpy purées. No big flavours to hurt babies tummy. Progress to 3meals a day and get into a routine.

I thought it was ridiculous. DS was/is ebf on demand. He got fed when he asked/shouted for it. He was used to a variety of flavours from my milk, chilli, garlic onions. Why did I have to cut down his flavours? Why did I have to be regimented in the times, amounts and 'progression' of textures. But apparently that's the way it is, to get babies onto solids you mush stuff up and shove it in their mouth. There didn't seem to be an alternative. HVs were asking me when I was planning on starting to spoon feed, next appointment was if he was on 3 meals a day yet, and how much he ate. They never suggested that there was another way.

After some googling I found BLW, I didn't know the name of it and was searching 'alternative weaning' ideas. I ordered the BLW book and had a read. My problems were solved. We haven't looked back!

I have never had to specifically cook, blend and freeze tubs of food for DS. I don't even own a blender! Instead my freezer is full of frozen veg! We don't even buy pizzas or chips anymore because that would mean cooking something else for DS. I've stopped using jars of sauce (curry, bolognase etc) because they're too salty and processed. I make my own sauces now so everything I make is suitable for DS but is also proper adult food.

Mine and DP diet has improved also, we were never the type to live off takeaways but I've stopped adding salt in cooking and making more things from scratch. There's always plenty of fruit and veg in the house now, the weekly shop is actually cheaper because I don't buy all the chocolates, sweets, biscuits and treats we used to sit and much on after dinner in front of the tv. We eat at the table together.

I'm probably one of the lazy ones who couldn't be bothered with the hassle of spoonfeeding. But I also saw it as completely unnecessary! And I get more time to eat my dinner, I don't have to sit and feed the baby. Bonus!

I am thankful for Gill Rapley for offering my an alternative to spoonfeeding when everybody else was telling me spoonfeeding is the only way!

girlwhowearsglasses · 07/04/2014 16:47

I think its great - I only found out about it after I'd been doing it as DS1 would not ever let a spoon past his mouth until he could lift it himself. There was no purée consumed ever - despite my faithfully following the books and making a disgusting mix of broccoli and apple. YUUUck.

WorraLiberty · 07/04/2014 16:50

NiMhurchu the alternative was always there though

Long before Gill Rapley 'offered' it to you.

ExcuseTypos · 07/04/2014 16:53

My DDs, now aged 23 and 20, were weaned on a mixture of purees and finger foods and most people I knew did the same.

And just because you opened a jar sometimes, doesn't mean you force feed them the entire jar, just like if you cut up some veg for them , you wouldn't force feed them all of that either.

NiMhurchu · 07/04/2014 16:58

Nobody had even hinted there was an alternative. I had spoonfeeding advice and recipes coming from all directions. The BLW book described clearly a different style of weaning that I had been unable to find elsewhere

monicalewinski · 07/04/2014 16:58

I'm another who had children before blw was 'invented' - I too gave my kids finger foods and let them have their own spoon to eat themselves Shock whilst I was spoon feeding puree. (Don't remember it being a faff to spoon feed either btw).

Now have 2 pre teens who eat well and self moderate their food intake - both are fit and healthy - do I get a damehood????

(Also mine were already off purees and onto mashed lumpy food by 6 months as we weaned early too then).

Paintyfingers · 07/04/2014 17:02

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Floralnomad · 07/04/2014 17:03

I never read any books about feeding my children, I used common sense.

WhoKnowsWhereTheTimeGoes · 07/04/2014 17:06

When DS (10) was weaned at 4 months, we did puree single fruits and veg for the first few weeks, but then progressed through mushed up family meals and finger foods from about 6 months old. We never did use jars of sauce or lots of salt in our food, or gravy granules or stuff like that, so it was no biggie really, we still cook the same way now. We still had the odd takeaway and gave the DCs food from the freezer on those nights. I thought that was just what everyone did? I don't recall being urged to spoonfeed by anyone really. Probably because I avoided signing up to any of the Bounty, Heinz etc websites.

I'd never heard of BLW back then. It had started being a thing I'd vaguley heard about when DD(8) was weaned but also by then the weaning guidelines had change from 4 to 6 months, so we just skipped the earliest puree stage and did the same as for DS.