to wonder whether womens suicide

[beanella]

is more frequently the outcome of domestic abuse than is acknowledged or understood?

what made you think that?

Possibly

Maybe it's more the case for men?

I've lost two women in my immediate family to suicide; one because of a terminal diagnosis and exacerbated through an alcoholic DH, other because of long standing depression. I work in an aligned field and my instinct would be no, to be honest. I see women who have been in horrendous situations but often because of DCs or other commitments wouldn't do it; equally I've lost one male friend to it. I think coping mechanisms are slightly different between the sexes, and I think men are generally more vulnerable, as they are less willing to ask for (and accept) help.

Suicide rates for women are generally much lower than for men. But reasons also vary largely by culture (i.e. some women more driven to it in controlling cultures than predominant UK culture, men more vulnerable).

I would wonder if more women who feel suicidal actually don't do it because they have children, (or even elderly parents as dependants) and the guilt of leaving/abandoning them stops them from actually taking action iyswim.
Speaking from my own experiences with depression and feeling suicidal over the years, there has been more than one occasion where it was only the thought of just how distressed one of my children would be if they were the one to find me, and how they would cope/be treated by others in the aftermath, that let me hang on that little bit longer until the "urge" for want of a better term passed and things weren't quite so bleak
So far, thank God, it's always been enough, and I am still here, although there are times when I wonder, as the children get older and need me less, just how long it will "work" for Part of it might be that when I was very ill, died in front of them, and was revived thankfully I saw their distress too, so I know how awful it was for them, it's not as abstract for us as it would maybe be to someone else and their family.

Suicide is by its very a nature, a selfish act. The person isnt being selfish when they do it, they often think that the people they leave behind will be happier if they do it, or they simply cant take the pain inside anymore. But they are thinking only of themselves or about themselves when they do it.

So a woman who stays with a man who abuses her out of fear of her children suffering is probably less likely to do it imo, because she is thinking of others

Yes I agree, having dependants and worrying for their well being is what kept me here as long as I have stayed.

Bogeyface How on earth do you know that "they are thinking only of themselves or about themselves when they do it"? Do you speak for everyone?