WTF? "Half of all uncircumcised males will, over the course of their lifetime, develop some kind of medical issue related to their foreskin."

[missingwelliesinsd]

Question as a Brit in the USA. I just read this news article on the never-ending debate (in the USA at least) of whether it's better to circumcise male babies. Some paper just issued by the Mayo Clinic concluded that the benefits out weigh the risks 100-1 and it would be unethical to not circumcise a male baby just it it would be if you don't get immunizations for your child. WTF?

I know that circumcising can help reduce STD transmissions - but hey, just use a condom! What I can't believe is that "50% of non-circumcised males have medical issues with their foreskins." That would make 50% of most of the male population of Europe having foreskin issues at some point. Can this be right? I tend to think it's just American prejudice against foreskins after decades of snipping. I'm TTC and if I do and we have a boy, no way am I snipping the poor thing.

Here's the article:
jezebel.com/circumcision-rates-decline-in-the-u-s-1557539810

CoteDAzur - what about the partner though, even if a study shows a man has the same/better/worse sensation with or without his foreskin, it makes a difference for their partner, which should also be considered.

miss I suppose it'll help those of us who are of the nudist persuasion...

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The fact that men circumcised as adults don't report decreased sensitivity a year or two after surgery does not in any way prove that circumcising a newborn does not affect it. You remove a piece of skin that is there to keep a really sensitive part of male anatomy moist and protected - of course it will have an effect.
If I would stick my tongue out and rub it against a pair of pants for about 20-30 years, I would be very surprised if it was no less sensitive.

Licking pants for 30 years. yak! I like your point though!

"I'm worried if I click on Cote's links pictures of happy, sensitive and fully aroused circumcised penises will pop up on my screen."

squoosh

"what about the partner though, even if a study shows a man has the same/better/worse sensation with or without his foreskin, it makes a difference for their partner, which should also be considered."

What difference?

I haven't noticed any difference. Another poster downthread whose DH was circumcised as an adult said she felt no difference.

I have had both circumcised (neonatal) boyfriends and non-cut ones, and I can certainly report a difference. I do admit though the sample size might not be considered large enough and being married deters me from further research in that field..

What is the difference?

Cote

I don't really care about the sensory responses, I care that the child has given no choice in having a healthy piece of flesh removed from their body.

Yes, Hazle, what is the difference? Enquiring minds want to know

has anyone found European:US disease rates, to demonstrate to accuracy of the claim?

the sample size might not be considered large enough

that's very unkind, Hazel, just because you have split up. Poor boys.

um..well..how the heck should I now describe it without being totally pornographic? Circumcised guys require generally quite a bit heavier handling and as the skin is tight and does not move like an uncut one would, the cut one feels different during penetration, there's more friction, but not in a good way.

I will have not namechange after this, won't I..

to namechange

From my single days, I noticed that ladies who had previously spent time with a snipped partner were clumsy and heavy handed less delicate than necessary.

Glad revisited this thread as loved that last post corus and Hazle

It's the consent biggie isn't it still.

Babies can't consent.

YY thebody! But remember any link that says so are simply biased activists . This is the exact argument I made that he can still have it done when he's (ds) is older if he wishes to. I remember being told that ds will get picked on at school when changing for swimming etc if he wasn't done. Me "why would he he's not going to school back home?" :)

Miss Are people really citing "he'll get picked on if you don't" as a reason to cut bits off their babies??

...a convincing argument

yes. That is exactly what my Ex and BIL said. Bonkers isn't it? Just like saying circs are as effective as vaccines.

That is the definite message. As if people were dying from not being circumcised rather than potentially ending up at the Dr's due to not practising good basic hygiene

Why would they get picked on? I don't think either of my sons ever got naked in front of other people. There's no need for it really.