to not understand why people how have children removed are not charged by the police

[Bogeyface]

Can someone explain this to me please?

I know of someone that has recently had a child removed due to neglect and lack of medical care. The child has a life limiting condition and the parents did not attend appointments and didnt get and administer the (free) prescription meds. Their actions have shortened his life, there is no two ways about that.

The other children are being removed but will go to a different foster carer so they will be split up :( This is due to neglect.

I was under the impression that neglecting a child was a criminal offence, so I dont understand why the parents havent been charged with anything. Is that normal? Surely the fact that the childs life will now be significantly shorter as a result of their actions should be punishable?

Penguin They havent, I know that for certain.

YNK that is nit true I was a foster carer and I have witnessed payments being forwarded on to parent for the purpose of contact

That is payment to visit your own child

Well I have been a foster carer for 7 years and I have never heard of this sadly the VAST majority of children in care are from homes were no one works eg people with drug , drink or mental health issues in my 7 years I never came across a well of family usually the families are chaotic and from very poor backgrounds

Travel expenses are for the benefit of the CHILD! Not one brown penny over the cost of travel goes in the parents pocket!
Sadly I have experienced foster carers discriminate against poor parents and pander to parents who are rich/professional! (not all fosterers, I hasten to add!).
Fewer family and friend carers persue court orders to gain expenses, especially now the legal aid is not available to them.

Ghost, these are usually people who are used to wielding power within the system!
They are not afraid to go above the head of the SW, often to director level IME!

YNK sorry again respectfully disagree
I have seen parents get expenses for travel then lunch then travel back but funny enough once the money is issued *the visit tends not to happen with the foster carer a child sitting outside contact centre Like a arse

Also I really don't know what you mean about foster carers pandering to wealthy parents to be honest like I said I can say in my 7 nearly 8 years every parent I had dealings with were on welfare and not working

*and I had never seen other foster carer pandering to birth parents I find that's usually the sw and the courts pandering to the BP wants instead of looking to the child's needs if anything most foster carers feel BP rich or poor have far to much lea way and to much time Is spent on there wants

YNK
What country do you live in?

If Britain, I am afraid I still don't understand. What people weild power? Why do they go to director level? Is the director a public employee?
Also, how are foster carers in the postion to cherry pick rich parents? Why are rich parents fostering their kids out? Don't professionals hire child minders? Isn't the fostering system to protect the vulnerable in society?

Fusedog: the money you are talking about is still to cover expenses and not a payment for visiting the child. Yes, some parents will take the money and not come, but, in my experience, many social services departments are careful to ensure the money is not wasted (particularly now money is very tight). For example, giving the money at the contact centre; only giving a travel warrant; only paying after contact upon production of receipts.

I didn't mention birth parents. Although I have said parents I have also said parents/carers which is more accurate.
I have said when I am talking about my experience so as to avoid generalisation.
IME paid foster carers are sometimes not committed enough to rehabilitation to home. I have my own view of this but it's not very charitable towards FC's so I will keep it to myself.

When I'm in charge they will be jailed and sterilised.

And I say that as a sister to an adopted boy who's parents should have been shot for what they inflicted on their 5 children.

Maybe it's not in the public interest?

Again to YNK

You only addressed one word in my post. My misuse of the words birth parents. Are you saying foster carers cherry pick foster carers? I am more confused. Sorry. Please can you make things clearer for me.

poster ghostinthecanvas actually as a foster carer you get called about a child usually in crisis and at that point you have no idea about the income of the family

I am not saying that wealthy parents don't abuse there children but sadly in my experience chaotic family that come to the attention on ss are usually on the lower end of society

badgerladythis is a line that is Said however the reality is sw often do use this As a carrot to come to contact

In uk ghost.

The rich and professional classes are capable (and more used to) of wielding power over their charges and services.
Directors often leave SW's vulnerable rather than supported in those circs!
I didn't say FC's cherry pick.
Even in the case of the rich/powerful motivation varies.

Can I ask that you read my posts before challenging, please?

Sorry but YNK I really am lost not now so your not saying birth parents use care as boarding house so who is doing this ???

And when you say foster carers cherry pick what are you referring to as you clearly don't understand how children are allocated to fc

Sadly I have experienced foster carers discriminate against poor parents and pander to parents who are rich/professional! (not all fosterers, I hasten to add!).

YNK
So many well off parents/carers use the system like a boarding facility!!!

These are all direct quotes from you YNK

Bogeyface

It sounds like you know this family well? It must be awful to know this info and see it happening and the results. You sound angry and if you are, who could blame you. for you.

Also can I get clarity on your point

IME paid foster carers are sometimes not committed enough to rehabilitation to home. I have my own view of this but it's not very charitable towards FC's so I will keep it to myself.

the job primarily of fosters carers is to heal the hurt htt has been caused by the neglect/abuse and to offer therapeutic parenting, and you mention Paid foster carers as if we earn a mint this might enlighten you it works out about £1.20 an hour
www.gov.uk/foster-carers/help-with-the-cost-of-fostering

I also said "parents/carers which is more accurate!" so as to clarify that when I have said parents this is what I mean.

My, my! The FC's are very defensive! Some of the posts by you, fusedog, are revealing of your attitude toward parents/carers!

The income of a neglected/abused childs family is something foster carers are never made aware of.
How can they cherry pick rich families if the families in crisis are in the lower end of society'
It seems to be a contradiction. You never addressed most of my questions.
Anyway, its not what the thread is about.

Bogeyface
The system stinks. If I ruled the world people would have to prove they can parent.
There are parents walking the streets now that have inflicted such harm on their children... it makes me really angry. But what needs to change? Such a huge subject.

YNK I read your posts.

Sorry but you assertion that there are powerful people welding power ECt make no sense and that you mention

"Paid foster carers and this should be a voluntary post although at £1.20 and hour it almost is

I said paid FC's to differentiate from 'family and friend' carers.

Do you need salt and vinegar for that chip on your shoulder fusedog??

You point the finger at parents/carers unjustly for profiteering, but are very quick to deny the same yourself.

Ok so foster carers are profiteering