To expect to leave work on time

[Icouldstillbejoseph]

I'm a HCP
Last night I was scheduled to work a twilight shift, 20:00-02:00
It dawned on me on my way into work that I should actually finish at 1 as that's when the clocks change.
Plenty of times I have worked the night when the clocks go back and we don't get an extra hours pay or anything. It's just chalked up to be 'one of those things'.
But when I asked if I could go at 1 (which was then 2) I was told 'no, you work till 'the old 2'. So I asked if all the other night staff would be working until 9am (normally finish at 8) to compensate too. Obviously not.
It pisses me off - don't put me on a bloody twilight shift on this date if it's going to be a problem! So, as it was I couldn't be relieved to leave on time anyway so got home at 3:45.

I'm probably bring U but the place is a fucking joke with the management etc so I just needed a tired rant.

So will you be chasing up the extra work hours due to not being relieved on time?

ilovesooty as always we email our line manager with the details of our shifts, our no breaks and our unpaid overtime and nothing ever gets done
And before anyone says anything, I'm looking for employment in another trust but I should imagine it's no better elsewhere

Seriously all the issues we have as healthcare professionals and this is what you chose to complain about? Everyone knows it's just the way it is. You worked your contracted hours didn't you?

I'd be fully backing you up if you were complaining about working extra hours, having no breaks etc which is what we face everyday. This.. no.

If you had been doing the shift beginning at 2 a.m. last night, would you have expected to go in at old 2 or new 2?

Completely agree OP, you were scheduled to work until 2am. Clocks go 00:58...00:59...2:00 so that's when you leave!

It's OK though, if they want to play by 'old time' rules just make sure you remind them of this when October comes and watch as they brick it when they realise it leaves them with a gaping 1hr gap in shifts . As others have said, at what point do they stop using the 'old' time?!

When I was a student nurse, I was working nights when the clocks went back, and so ended up working an extra hour that night - I asked if we would get overtime for that, but was told no, because the staff who worked the night the clocks went forward couldn't and wouldn't be docked an hour's pay.

I think YANBU OP. I was on the same shift last year. If I'd stayed the extra hour I would have had less rest before my next shift the next afternoon. Once the clocks have changed that is the official time. It doesn't make sense to insist you work until 3am but everyone else finishes on time the next morning. And it wouldn't make sense to insist all night workers work until one hour later because of the knock on effect to the next shift.

As OP states it is fairly accepted that in October we do an extra hour and March one less. This is just one more way that twilight shifts are rough!

I was wondering what happened with night shifts when we put the clocks forward last night. Thanks for answering that question, OP, with this thread! But yea, that isn't cool, yanbu.

I think you should work your contracted hours and if you are contracted for six you should work for six. There should be mechanisms in place to agree longer hours and pay overtime for them. HCAs are low paid and are not professional/managerial members of staff and should not be expected to deliver more than their contractual hours without recompense. If there is an emergency that requires an extra hour or two this should be accounted for.

It's funny, isn't it, in the NHS we're used to working unpaid overtime for clinical reasons, which you don't resent at all, but something like this where management want to have their cake and eat it by getting free work out of you at both ends is different. It just underlines how little they care about how much extra effort we put in when it's needed and how little we are valued. It's hardly the biggest problem, but it's an unnecessary slap in the face from a management who treat the staff as expendable mugs all too often.

I am NHS too. When the clocks go back we work the extra. Last night I was finishing at 2am, so the clock went 00.59 then 02.00 and all the 02.00 finishers went
Basically if you are working, you do 13hrs when they go back and 11hrs when they go forward