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To ask you what you would like to say to the Labour Party leadership?

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happyon · 18/03/2014 12:52

This is a bit of a TAAT, but I didn't want to take the other excellent thread in only one direction, so here is a new one.

I'm a member of the Labour Party and I know there are other members here and plenty of voters. I also know that there's a world of rage out there about what this government is doing to this country and how ineffectually Labour seem to be responding.

I suspect that important Labour types will read this if get enough people involved. They need to listen to us or we will have to deal with another Tory government.

I'll begin by saying that I want Labour to:

Support a living wage for everyone, in all parts of the country. Immediately.

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CountessOfRule · 19/03/2014 07:48

Every incoming government blames its predecessors for bad stuff and takes credit for good stuff regardless of the truth. Wait and see the next lot do so too. It's meaningless.

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ViviPru · 19/03/2014 07:53

Stella will probably listen to this. Mumsnet? Social Media? She'll be all over it.

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happyon · 19/03/2014 07:53

Yes, countess, but labour just rolled over and took it. Every bit of it, to the stage where most of the country seem to think the recession was all labour's fault.

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Wannabestepfordwife · 19/03/2014 08:45

I've never voted for labour as the last election was the only one I've been able to vote in and Gordon brown wasn't an appealing prospect. I would say
The country needs to be less London/ south east centric
More help for small businesses and people wanting to set up new businesses
Get rid of all the targets and bureacracy in the public sector get doctors, nurses, teachers etc back to what they were trained to do
Increase social mobility
Medicine degrees are oversubscribed invest in universities so we don't need as many foreign doctors.
Just because towns like Grimsby and Redcar will always vote labour doesn't mean you should forget them
Do more help to help the high street
Do away with zero hours contracts
I don't want to see political spouses if they really feel their opinion counts they should run for office themselves
An EU referendum enough people want one it would be undemocratic not to have one.
Stop giving the likes of Branson train bids , buying banks when he's moving jobs out of the country.
MPs from the area they are representing
Lower cost of living and housing

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headlesslambrini · 19/03/2014 08:49

Sort out the careers advice in schools. The system in place now is NOT working, some schools are meeting the requirement by a poster in a corridor - bloody disgraceful.

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Tanith · 19/03/2014 09:24

At the moment, the right wing media are pushing the "lazy, good-for-nothing British worker" in an attempt to justify exploiting immigrant workers.

Why hasn't the Labour party countered this? Why haven't they strongly defended, not only the rights of all workers to receive decent pay and conditions, but the reputation of the hardworking British people?

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TheNumberfaker · 19/03/2014 12:52

Get out there and convince all the apathetic non/floating voters that Labour does care about ordinary people, that all politicians are not the same powercrazed money grabbing idiots we've had since 2010.
Focus on getting education and the NHS back in shape and let's feel proud of the UK.

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hiddenhome · 19/03/2014 12:54

You're a bunch of numpties. Never try to bankrupt run the country again. Go back to school Smile

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Fusedog · 19/03/2014 12:57

Less spend more thrift

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Fusedog · 19/03/2014 13:00

poster Tanith



Because the labour lot are as privileged as the right mps

I hear tristin hunt is putting his children in boarding school and the Tory pm for education has put his children in a state school how times have changed

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Viviennemary · 19/03/2014 13:01

Stop saying spend more and more and more as a way of resolving the country's economic problems. Can't believe they are still spouting that silly old tale. It didn't work last time. It won't get a chance to work this time because people won't vote for it. I'm absolutely not voting labour next time though I have done for at the last three general elections.

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boschy · 19/03/2014 13:56

IF, and it's a big if, Labour would do what everyone on this thread is saying then I would seriously consider voting for them.

That is a major change for me; I've previously always voted Tory, on the grounds that I did believe in some of their policies. However I am so disheartened by this lot that I cannot find anyone at all to vote for.

They used to say that one got more right wing as one got older... well I started out fairly left, veered rightish, and would now like to go back leftish again!

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grovel · 19/03/2014 15:15

Miliband's response to the Budget at lunchtime was totally feeble in the Commons. Balls is now talking balls on Sky.

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Catkinsthecatinthehat · 19/03/2014 15:37

I hear tristin hunt is putting his children in boarding school

Hunt has his kid in state school, (as I think was pointed out to you in another thread about this), and has says that he's planning to do the same for his other children when they reach school age.

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Catkinsthecatinthehat · 19/03/2014 15:38

'said' - I blame my state education Wink

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ElizaDolittle2 · 19/03/2014 15:42

Bring back community care. Those of us that have disabilities/need help and everything being cut to the bone which is marginalising us even more.

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mummymeister · 19/03/2014 15:45

Just heard millibland on 5live and another labour politician from the treasury. honestly, it was painful. the usual crap about - too little too late, hard working families, nasty bankers. change the bloody record. the labour guy was asked outright would you keep the benefit cap? he fudged it and refused to answer. they have to have answers. they have to have credible policies. on todays showing, don't know who would vote for them, certainly not me at the moment. get the top tier out. they are tarnished, damaged goods. get in a brand new team with radical ideas who think, right we have lost the next election so lets say what we really think and want to do and bring people along with us long term.

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Dinosaursareextinct · 19/03/2014 16:18

I don't understand why they don't throw him out? Do they have no-one in the party who actually cares about changing the Government?

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happyon · 19/03/2014 17:58

l like Ed but it's pretty clear he's not winning over voters. I doubt they will get rid of him though. The Labour Party has traditionally kept leaders in well beyond their shelf life.

Who else for leader? I like Yvette Cooper a lot. Am I alone?

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merrymouse · 19/03/2014 18:02

It's almost as though they don't really want to win the next election.

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2013go · 19/03/2014 18:32

Merry mouse- exactly so, they seem hellbent on losing it.

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Fusedog · 19/03/2014 18:46

Add message | Report | Message poster Catkinsthecatinthehat Wed 19-Mar-14 15:37:53
NOi clearly heard him say when it came to secondary he wouldn't rule out private school or boarding

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Hassled · 19/03/2014 18:56

I'm a Labour member and activist. And I'm exasperated - absolutely agree that Ed Miliband is not the right leader. You don't ever look at him and think "potential future PM". There's no charisma in Ed - much as I think he's a good man. Labour at the moment are reactive, seldom proactive. They're often slow to even be reactive. We need a clear message - it's not enough to say "Coalition policies are bad and this is why" - we need to know how they would be different, in clear, concise terms.

There's a consultation on Labour's policy programme at the moment - here. I hope something good comes out of it - something inspiring.

And I realise I'm virtually alone in the world in thinking this, but I still think Ed Balls would be a good leader.

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Tanacot · 19/03/2014 19:02

Stop with these robotic freaks chanting their soundbites who don't believe in anything and can't do anything.

You know, it does matter. I've met a lot of interesting Labour Party members but they didn't do PPE at Oxford so they don't "get on" in the party. If Labour can't figure out how to make it possible for ordinary people to thrive in the Labour Party, I hold out no hope for them doing so in the country in general.

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dolphinsandwhales · 19/03/2014 19:15

We've got to reduce immigration, it's lowering wages and allowing employers to pay less to foreign workers, reducing employment and opportunities for Britons. Immigration is capitalism at its worst when uncontrolled.

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