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Neighbour's tree - update

111 replies

fingerlicking · 11/03/2014 14:51

If you read my original thread about my neighbour's unreasonable demands in a not like for like replacement of a Hawthorn tree in a shared hedge, there is an update.

I have paid for the replacement with a different larger tree in a different spot. However, it has made me feel so different about living here. They are new neighbours so I haven't felt this way before.

Our very large garden is L shaped. The bottom of the L adjoins their garden and the bottom of the L runs along the bottom of other neighbours' gardens. That part of the garden is about 0.2 acres square. It has access of 4 metres wide to a main road and is in an allowed development area within our village. When we purchased the house 5 years ago we were told that it was prime development. We didn't develop it as we wanted to stay in our home and wanted a huge garden.

We are now working with an architect to put plans together for 2 or possibly 3 detached 3/4 bed houses. We live an hours commute from the City of London and the land would be worth over £300k. It would clear our mortgage and would still leave our home with a large garden so would not reduce our house value much at all.

We could then sell up, have a bigger house with half the mortage. No brainer really.

Silly neighbours have forced our hand.

OP posts:
Sister77 · 11/03/2014 18:24

Finger licking I thought you were being a wimp! You are my hero!!!!
That'll learn em! As my gramps used to say!

slithytove · 11/03/2014 18:25

OP will the neighbours affected be facing the new houses or backing on to the new houses?

CSIJanner · 11/03/2014 18:25

Oh dear God! This goes up there with the penguins Grin And you get a lower mortgage, bigger house and move away from what is now a tainted scenario. Brucey Bonus!

Owl - yes, I feel for the other neighbours but with land being in much need for houses these days, it would be something I would expect should I live near to a house with so much land.

OwlCapone · 11/03/2014 18:31

That doesn't make the glee and talk of "best revenge ever" any more right.

Nomama · 11/03/2014 18:40

Thrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrp!

Thassa raspberry, Owlcapone!

OP can give it a whirl and enjoy the na na nee na na feeling whilst she does.

FrancesNiadova · 11/03/2014 18:44

RESPECT! Wine

dammitsue · 11/03/2014 19:04

Op, cut down that tree before the neighbors get a sniff of what might be happening as I think they can ask for a preservation order as a weapon. Good luck with this, soured relations with neighbors have driven us from a home in the past.

Damnautocorrect · 11/03/2014 19:20

So you've fallen out with your neighbour (rightly so, they are dicks) and your replacing them by new ones?!?
Don't make a decision like this in anger and haste.
You chose the house because of the garden, don't let them ruin it for you. Give it six months before you spend any money, the gardens just waking up as is the wildlife.

Fannydabbydozey · 11/03/2014 19:50

God I WISH my neighbours would cut down their trees. We all have smallish gardens and I'm surrounded by giant sodding trees. All of which block the sun from my garden. My immediate neighbour has cut hers back but all the others are refusing even though their trees (one is 40 foot plus another is a gigantic eucalyptus tree which looms like a skyscraper and drops entire branches when it is windy, another is a huge fir...) are right on the boundary with mine or the other close gardens.

I'd much rather have a house - I'd have more damn sunlight.

Misspixietrix · 11/03/2014 19:54

I hope their tree will look nice framed by a House Grin

Pimpf · 11/03/2014 19:58

I can see why you're doing it, hopefully it won't affect the other neighbours but I think I'd be letting everyone know why you're doing it

Fannydabbydozey · 11/03/2014 20:06

I just want to add that I love trees - but great big fuckers have no place on the boundary of someone else's garden.

OwlCapone · 11/03/2014 20:07

Thrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrp!

Thassa raspberry, Owlcapone!

Are you six?

OP can give it a whirl and enjoy the na na nee na na feeling whilst she does.

Depends what kind of person she is.

Redpriestandmozart · 11/03/2014 20:30

Just read your other thread, was it a fairy tree? My mother would have gone ape shit if you cut down a fairy tree. My dad once trimmed one on our land and she swears he never had luck after that day!

PrivateBenjamin · 11/03/2014 20:56

Well done fingerlicking ! I was on your old thread too and was sorry about the way they bullied you, but maybe this will just teach them not to stir things up!

Agree with a previous poster about getting the big tree chopped down now before anybody knows about your plans. They can't get a protection order on it if it isn't there anymore!

What's a fairy tree RedPriest ? How do you identify one?

fingerlicking · 11/03/2014 21:00

I don't feel great, I feel sad. One of the reasons for not doing it years ago was because we liked our immediate neighbours, and yes they will be affected. They will be affected most. I don't feel great about that.

However, my DH has said that to him this means an early retirement. For me it means if I lose my well paid part time job (quite likely), I won't need to get a full time one and hardly see the children. It will open up so many options for us as a family.

I have an architect friend who has spoken to us about it regularly; in fact she spoke to me only just before Christmas. There will be objections, but it is a 'shoe in' because of its location.

The house we will buy will have 4 bedrooms (we currently have 3) and less than half our current mortgage. It is a no brainer if you just look at the finances. However, we never have just considered the finances as we were happy where we were. We now are not happy as they are growling over the fence at us.

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Northernlurker · 11/03/2014 21:02

Fantastic idea! Anybody who lives next to anybody runs the risk of this happening. Serves them right and everybody else can just lump it. Frankly OP - given the huge financial upside I think you've been very restrained not to do this already.

MidniteScribbler · 11/03/2014 21:10

I know why you're doing it, but the impact on your neighbours is going to be pretty massive. I'd be wanting to know so that I could try and sell before you start making your changes.

mistlethrush · 11/03/2014 21:36

I think people are being hard on the op - put it this way, if there are developers interested in the village, if the OP puts the house on the market, they will buy it, get the pp and get all the benefit of building the new houses. This way the op does. It doesn't have any different impact upon the neighbours, just who gets the benefit.

jay55 · 11/03/2014 21:53

Be interesting to see if multiple neighbour disputes affect the sale of your house.

coco44 · 11/03/2014 21:55

OP I think you are being rather naïve, It is not as easy as you think to get PP to build on your garden, and especially not multiple houses!
The planners won't care about housing need in the area, or whether the neighbours object, they will be looking at how it fits in with the existing houses.They will care about access (a lot) and especially if you have a narrow entrance opening on to a main road.
They will have to be sure that any new houses do not overbear(dominate) or overshadow the gardens or windows of other houses and that each of your houses has a reasonable curtilage ,especially it the existing houses do.)
You need to talk to the planners the architect gets paid for doing teh drawings whether you get planning or not, and many will say anything to get your business.

YouStayClassySanDiego · 11/03/2014 21:57

I love it!

VivaLeBeaver · 11/03/2014 22:03

Do it.

Loads of people round here have got pp and built in their gardens.

trixymalixy · 11/03/2014 22:10

Go for it! Would love to see their faces!

ADishBestEatenCold · 11/03/2014 22:19

we liked our immediate neighbours, and yes they will be affected. They will be affected most

I feel so sorry for your nice neighbours. I would imagine that, if they come to fruition, your development plans could totally ruin their enjoyment of their home (possibly forever, if it reduces the value of their home and puts them in a financial position of not being able to sell).

Aren't you lucky in that you'll be able to 'take the money and run'? I don't know what I would do. Quite possibly the same as you.