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WillKat's second honeymoon...

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louloutheshamed · 07/03/2014 06:09

They've gone to the Maldives without Prince George apparently (it's in the dm)

Seriously?? Think this might turn the tide of public opinion against them...seems its just one long holiday being the D and D of Cambridge....

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Lavenderhoney · 09/03/2014 08:01

Grin at my previous comments being on the edge of treason..

I don't think everyone adores them. They aren't even a necessary evil. Other countries are just as educated as the UK and must wonder why the UK population are happy to support a bunch of people who have inherited the title and if it wasn't for an accident of birth, be stacking shelves somewhere. The pr machine rolls on.

The press and polititions can say it as much as they like, it doesn't make it fact. Its not illegal to have a negative opinion of the RF and to voice it, the UK is not a dictatorship.

Its an ingrained reaction, like the threads about paying for a bbc tv licence even if you don't watch tv/ live tv and people come on and talk about morals and are happy to pay for a service they don't use because the bbc has such a long term reputation of being on the side of the angels and once held a monopoly on reporting.

Ask yourself what the royal family are for and what contribution they have made this last few decades - tourism? Is that it? Their contribution is very difficult to define which makes it harder to measure their worth especially as nowadays our own jobs aren't for life.

we are appraised and measured in the name of talent management but in reality its a chance to hoof out people who have given their all, and now just want a nice 9-5 or go part time. Or be on the payroll and occasionally turn up for parties .. Oh, wait!:)

The RF have a desk and a chair in UK inc, and have left their cardigan on the seat.

The only difference is no one has tried to take their job. And seeing as how they dictate their job spec and commitment to the UK I'm quite surprised.
They have power alright, but don't choose to use it. A different type of heir could be a dangerous prospect, but the hunger isn't there for power and authority. Its benign.

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SetPhasersTaeMalkie · 09/03/2014 08:43

I have no opinion on the couple leaving their son. It's up to them. What rankles is the idea that this pair are ordinary or more in touch with the people of Britain. PR stunts like going to help with the floods or insinuating that Kate will be a normal hands on mother go to reinforce it.

I just don't like being treated as though I am stupid. They are enormously privileged and wealthy and as such are completely cut off from their subjects. They should acknowledge it, be grateful for it and stop treating us like idiots.

ExcuseTypos · 09/03/2014 09:01

Agree Set. They can leave their baby with who ever they choose, that isn't the issue.

It's the '"we're like everyone else" PR nonsense which infuriates.

I'm really beginning to dislike this couple, they and their PR team think we're all a bit thick.

KonkeyDong · 09/03/2014 09:02

They used my line but didn't attribute me..... I'm just 'another contributor'. DM fuckers.

Dappydongle · 09/03/2014 09:10

They've gone to go and start making the spare, surely?

olidusUrsus · 09/03/2014 10:48

I'm sorry to drag it back up just as conversation is finally moving on - but I don't see the "dangerous game" I am/was playing.

I was alluding that there was spin between the press and the palace around K's early pregnancy because of all the articles surrounding "revelation" that she was pregnant - how the palace were so desperate to keep it hidden for longer but couldn't because she was ill - despite her whole admittance process having no need to be made public and all in all, how it was a nice little PR "aw they're just so down to earth, the press are so howwible" package.

It was no comment on the hospital's management of their patients, nor their staffs personal lives.

venturabay · 09/03/2014 11:44

Sorry, thought I'd explained - my post was very badly laid out.

Suggesting that KM had full blown hyperemesis was the dangerous game I referred to, since at the time people who suggested that here got royally told off. It wasn't meant seriously.

My next comment on the death was serious, but merely a supplementary to the point about spin. I assumed the report of the inquest had been hushed up, but it seems from what another poster has said that the inquest is not yet complete. So I was wrong. And it wasn't directly relevant I concede.

Completely agree with the poster who resents being treated as thick by the PR lot who are probably far thicker themselves if they really believe that we believe half their rubbish - it's all been wearing tremendously thin. The younger royals don't have the work ethic or intelligence of the Queen - they all seem utterly pointless to me.

Harsh but true SeaSicksal.

olidusUrsus · 09/03/2014 11:59

Ah I see ventura, I got your two points muddled into one. I think the palace will be in for an overhaul once Liz passes - I don't think they realise how lucky they have been to have such a balanced and neutral woman at the helm. I can't see public adoration for the monarchy continuing with Charles/Will behind it.

TessOfTheBaublevilles · 09/03/2014 12:23

I don't have any issue with parents leaving their babies behind for a holiday, in the care of capable people, which of course the Middletons are.

I do have a problem with Kate and William taking yet another holiday, so soon after their individual holidays to Mustique and Spain, with security costs being at the expense of the UK taxpayer. And of course, George's security at Middleton Manor will also be at their expense.

What's wrong with them taking a "couple time" holiday in the UK somewhere? That would be a boost for tourism surely, to see members of the RF holidaying on their own shores?! A break in the UK would still have costs, but not as much, as wouldn't need to fly the security detail thousands of miles away for a start.

Thankfully DH and I are no longer UK taxpayers, as we're living in the States, so our taxes aren't paying for it. However I feel sick for every hard-working taxpayer who is having to shell out for these parasites and doesn't want to.

Viva la Republic I say!

Nanny0gg · 09/03/2014 12:30

If they were going to take a 'staycation' holiday, they've got Balmoral and Sandringham to go to surely? Not to mention the grand houses of some of their friends. Not quite so glamorous though.

The cynic in me thinks that the wife of a Royal has to make time for 'couple' time, because there's too many others who'd jump into her Jimmy Choos in a heartbeat. Baby or no baby.

Its0kToBeMe · 09/03/2014 13:05

I'm sick of both of them tbh. He looks like a sulky little shit and she looks dead behind the the eyes.

gertiegusset · 09/03/2014 14:55

How does Kate Middleton (the wife of a royal) have to 'make couple time'?
Does he have to organise time off work too? ( not employed atm as far as I know)
Does she have to organise time off work and childcare? Hmm

Nanny0gg · 09/03/2014 16:01

As in, apart from the security detail and hotel staff, no-one else around. Total privacy. Time to devote to him alone.

Bonsoir · 09/03/2014 16:25

There's nothing wrong with wanting a regular child free holiday. Lucky them! And we don't all have to live our lives in the public eye the way they do - maybe they need to retreat from the world a bit more often than mere mortals in order to keep things normal.

taratamara · 09/03/2014 16:39

they're having a rest to prepare for the australia trip Wink

jellybaby25 · 09/03/2014 16:45

For those who say there is nothing we can do about it, consider joining Republic, a group that campaigns for an elected head of state. See www.republic.org.uk or like their FB page: www.facebook.com/republiccampaign

Their Monarchy myth buster is particularly interesting.

zeezeek · 09/03/2014 17:08

They don't have to live in the public eye....all they have to do it stop taking our money to fund their lavish lifestyle which seems to consist of doing fuck all, get proper jobs, give up the throne and then live a normal life.....will it happen? Will it hell. In the meantime, as we are funding them, then, frankly, the GBP are entitled to make whatever comments they want.

TheZeeTeam · 09/03/2014 17:15

LOL Taratamara. There has been much touting in the press about how "hard" this trip is going to be. For Goodness Sake, they're being wined and dined for 3 weeks, with maybe the odd bad bit of dancing thrown in. It's just posh backpacking!

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Greysandybeach · 09/03/2014 17:58

Grin Daily mail has quoted a poster up thread:

"One mother, who uses the blog name louloutheshames, posted on Mumsnet: ‘Seriously? Think this might turn public opinion against them .??.??. seems its just one long holiday for the D and D of Cambridge.’ "

HermioneWeasley · 09/03/2014 18:16

Lazy journalism!