to be a bit surprised how many people put buggies in front of the tv

[TheFlumpFlan]

Recently I've seen quite a few do this. Today I asked a friend to sit in for 15min whilst I popped to the shops whilst dd maple in the buggy. Kind of her but I was surprise to come back to see dd had woken so shed wheeled in the other room and turns the tv on.
Last week whilst we another woman got a buggy out to stick her 10month in to watch tv whilst we ate, I was offered a spare and both women looked taken aback that I'd rather leave dd to crawl around. I've seen it a few times dropping kids off too, an under two strapped in in front of the tv.
Am I the odd one making my live difficult letting children roam as I do household tasks? It's never occurred to me. The kids never look bothered or affected by it, but it just feels like something I couldn't do? Is it normal?

Why put them in a buggy? That's the odd bit to me.

I use the TV eg when I need a shower. But my two are mobile so if they stop watching they can get up. The place is pretty toddler proof.

I have only said I use it for little bursts not to restrain him all day.

No not really, your house cannot be 100 % toddler pro if and you cannot trust a toddler to be safe. As long as they are safe then that's the main thing

Ds will roam and does not stay in one place for long, our stairs cannot hold a stair gate properly due to their design so I would rather know he's safe than here there and everywhere

why use a buggy

Some parents don't have a selection of things at hand.

most have a buggy.

I said "pretty" toddler proof. I have dealt with a broken leg, cut heads, bruises etc so know I cannot prevent every accident. Although none of the major incidents would have been prevented by TV. I didn't let mine watch TV until 2 - I would either shower when dh was around or take them with me. Now they're 4&2, they watch a fair bit.

Yes aero but being restrained unsupervised is actually quite risky: flinging themselves about to Terry and get out so rising overturning the buggy or getting a strap around their neck our slipping the straps and falling.

I shower with the door open so ds can wander between his room and the shower and my only problem is persuading him not to chuck books in with me (he often fills the bath with duplo or his bath toys which I don't mind as I can take my time when I can see what he's doing).

You're right Aeroflot you can't 100% safety proof a house and I wouldn't want to. DD knows the oven gets hot. She knows she has to wait at the top of stairs for me if she went down on her bum as I've shown her she wouldn't have to do this but there's very little she can actually do to really hurt herself or shows any tendency to try to do. As I say I'm lucky she isn't much of a climber.

Well each to their own, when I have a shower ds us in tge cot. He does not try to get out the buggy, it's for such a short time anyway. We just have to do tge best we can with what we have or can manage.

Apart from the buggy and the jumperoo, i actually haven't had anything in the house i can place 17mo ds to keep him safe/away from danger. He co sleeps, so altho we do have a cot, it isn't usually up/available. We don't use a high chair - he sits on laps or on a dining chair. We have had a play pen for about a week now tho because i need to have somewhere to put him atm. He would never be safe left while i showered etc at 10mo if he wasn't restrained. Altho i never did put him in the buggy - but that was more because i just never thought of it!

Mine just wander in and out when we shower. If we need one contained I would just bring in shower with me.

And by 2 the buggy was already sold, cot gone etc so no restraining thing even an option

Well by 2 i'm hoping ds will be slightly more sensible than he has been 10-17mo . So far we have had numerous A&E visits and an operation to sew his face up when he just ran full force into the bed post. He climbs on the dining table and just steps off. He climbs in the drawers of the kitchen and swings the drawer shut slamming his face in the drawer handle above. He can open the baby gate. If he is in the bathroom while i shower he climbs in/on the toilet, turns taps, squirts toothpaste, eats my face cream, pulls the loo roll out and drops it in the loo etc. i couldn't have him actually 'in' the shower with me either - far too dangerous - we'd both end up with our heads cracked open! Some bad weeks when dh is working away i don't shower for 5 days - i just flannel wash and dry shampoo my hair every day :(

I do this and I'm fairly 'naice' in other respects.
Ds is extremely active and will damage himself and /or the house if left unsupervised.
I tend to pop him in the buggy 10 minutes before the school run so that I can finish getting dd ready and perhaps for 10 minutes when we get in from school run so that I can deal with a few things in peace.
Other times I put him in his cot with some books.
He won't sit still and watch tv normally and he hates sitting in the buggy unless it's moving but a combination of tv and buggy is magic!
Buggy is in the hall though and he can see kitchen tv from there-I guess it might be different if I had to push buggy through to living room.

Or honestly wouldn't have occurred to me to do this.

I think the negative connotations come as often when abuse/neglect cases are reported there are occurrences where the dc involved have been left in pushchairs for.hours pointed at the tv - but this isn't what is happening -what I gather from the op is that these are short periods while a couple of chores are done/dinner is eaten.

if it is short periods and the dc is happy then there's no problem but long and frequent would not be good (excluding naps obviously as it makes no odds where they sleep - it isn't hours of no stimulation, excercise through play, socialisation etc when used for naps or for short periods while doing something necessary.

As long as they aren't in there all day long I really don't see the harm?! I never did it mostly because my older two only slept in the buggy if it was moving and my youngest hated the buggy with a passion!

My two weren't keen on the buggy either, and both managed to tip it over at one point or another. dd did spend a fair bit of time in her bouncy chair watching The Hungry Caterpillar when we all needed some down time (which with a 16 month gap between her and ds was quite often!)

I appreciate I'm missing the point of this thread a bit, but do you clean your pram wheels before bringing it inside? Mine lives in the vestibule and I couldn't imagine the faff of cleaning it enough to have it in my living room - on the same carpet that DD licks plays on. Am I missing a trick here (it'd be useful to bring it inside as I never manage to get DD out still asleep after a walk)

When I was pregnant with my first child, I read about Alex Sutherland a baby who was 13 mth old when he died. It was a truly distressing neglect case that has left his name burned into my memory forever.

I won't give details but it's all on the bbc news website. I know it won't harm children to spend a few extra minutes in the house strapped into a buggy. But it is something I just could not do, as soon as we are in the door, the children are released out of the pram.

I suppose with two walking 13mos, i just can't contemplate leaving them unattended EVER. They would have something (anything!) wrapped around their neck with the other one pulling on it. So they come with me to the loo; I put them on the other side of the kitchen and run like billio to open the oven etc. I accept that for every thing I put on the clothes horse, 2 things get taken off. I either shower when my DH is at home or when they are napping or don't bother. I suppose I could put them in their cots to contain them but they are crap enough sleepers as it is I don't want them to associate the cot with being trapped!

Like I say, if they are happy to have a little nap or cuddle up in the buggy then I don't have a problem but the TV thing just sounds a bit weird to me,

I suppose I do get a little bit of time when they are eating - I did BLW from day one with them so they take a good while to eat and I often run around the kithcen like a mad thing getting stuff done/emptying the dishwasher. I often give them a whole peeled apple to chew on and that buys me an extra 5 mins!

I think I did it occasionally with the older two, if they fell asleep in the pushchair id push it into the livingroom.

Ds3 had a jumperoo that he loved and was good for when I was cooking etc

Ds4 has spent lots of time in the playpen as its the safest place for him with the toddler trying to jump on him or steal his toys.

Hes 13 months and walking now so wants to be out and about. I still pop him in the playpen though if I need to go into another room so hes safe from the 2 year old

I've had to do it quite a few times in the day recently, when I had to put ds just turned 2 in it as I had an IBS attack and needed to use the loo urgently without worrying about him tearing tge house down, and when he found the ketchup and put it all over the kitchen floor and walls. So strapped him in, put Mr T on and could clean in peace without worrying what he was going to do next. Ds is full on and does not suit still for one nano second. I envy all these parents on here with perfect toddlers who sit nicely for 10 mins or follow them around nicely. No not a chance with ds! You have to muddle along sometimes and do the best you can, if that means parking ds in front of Ceebeebies for 15 mins so be it!