To think Prince William and his wife are lacking appreciation of their position

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and good fortune?

He just seems a bit of an over-privileged posh boy?

I know everyone says he has lovely manners, but we can expect a bit more than that, surely?

They have just hired a 'forrin' nanny a) after making an enormous PR fuss about not having one b) at a time of high UK unemployment.

The list of god-parents for their baby was a bit multi-barrelled and No foreign royals, as is traditional, but Not the slightest whiff of any demographic diversity either.

There seem to be a LOT of luxury holidays going on with these two.

The uni course he is doing has been especially designed for him and seems designed to prepare him for inheriting the enormous (private) Duchy of Cornwall. Not exactly public-spirited?

In the much-hyped first post-baby interview, he was keen to promote a charity saving Kenyan Rhinos. Nothing intrinsically wrong with that, but the line between animals he shoots for fun and animals he wants to save is unclear and anyhow a charity for under-privileged (UK?) children would have been the nice, publicity-shrewd thing to do, maybe?

For a couple with a great deal of expensive PR expertise at their disposal they seem to be slightly missing the mark a bit too often.

Sorry, that was poorly-phrased. What I meant is that the media likes to portray her as working hard in busy full-time royal role (ie. a movie premiere and gala dinner once a month) and juggling this alongside motherhood, as if she were some kind of superwoman. Not only does she do bugger all in the way of royal duties, but the SAHM part of the deal involves nannies, housekeepers, drivers, and someone to bring her outfits and do her hair. Hardly the experience most SAHMs have.

Someone on the "If you didn't have to work, would you?" thread wrote;

"I think I would go back to uni and do a interesting but pointless degree like history of art....combined with bits of voluntary work etc"

Interesting in terms of this discussion, I thought.

SAHM with nannies? Sounds back-breaking, to be fair

The thing is I'm sure it would take a mean-spirited person to begrudge her the good fortune, IF she would only stop pretending she works.

It's a bit tactless when many parents are now forced to put their babie in childcare for 10 hours per day.

But how do you know she isn't working behind closed doors.

As what, a chartered accountant?

The more i read this thread, the more this whole hard-working mum/maternity leave/paternity leave nanny/no nanny schtick irritates me, TBH.

I'm lucky. I SAHMed until my DC were toddlers (although we were crushingly skint as a result) and now I am flexibly. SE from home.

If I was a WOHM with a baby, I think I would count up Katie's work engagements pre and post baby, listen to the maternity leave stuff and get really quite testy.

But how do you know she isn't working behind closed doors.

Are you kidding, doing what, polishing the family silver?

The main thing is, if we were a republic then we would have a choice who we had as President. Ok, we might vote in a complete tosser - but the thing is, we would have voted him/her in and, in a few years, could vote them out. With the Royal Family we're stuck with whatever half wit happens to have been conceived by the 'right' person.

For most people it is hard work being a SAHM - but she has staff, nannies etc, so WTF does she actually do all day?

Also, for those who talk about the fact that these people cost us 67p a year - well there's, what, 50 million people in the UK? That's £33,500,000 per year. Personally, I'd rather people had the choice to pledge that 67p to a food bank or to the NHS, or to a school. Something that does good for a community or the country - for our old people and our children.

In the republic of America, people meet and get married through World of Warcraft. Students meeting people on their course, shacking up and then getting married after a decade or so is even more common.

I see no reason why a non-royal William would be doomed to eternal singledom. Especially after the cocklodgers I've read about MNers marrying! I would think that Catherine and William might have got married younger, as it wouldn't have unleashed public speculation over their plans for children, or focused huge attention on her sister's derrière.

God knows I got married when we wanted, quite a bit younger than the Cambridges. If I'd been faced with planning a state wedding, we'd have postponed it until I was 30.

Tilly are you feeling ok?

WoW?

Quite fine, thank you. Did you not know it happened? If you're female, MMOs are a good way to meet people! I also have some friends who met through an internet forum, and had children.

Random links to attest to it.
mmocouples.wordpress.com/my-love-story/

www.wowhead.com/forums&topic=189990.2/can-you-really-find-love-in-a-game-wow

Just can't imagine Kate Middleton on something like Wow. I am trying...

I can't even think what Kate sounds like. Memorable she is not. Maybe she'll find her niche eventually but its all a bit Stepford to me

No, she doesn't strike me as a gamer either, whether in a republic or a sovereign state. Normal upper middle-class woman, really.

Google says she tried running her own business, instead of getting to level 60 on World Of Warcraft. Probably a better decision- WoW was so, so boring, that I would pay not to play it.

www.parentdish.co.uk/2013/09/16/kate-middleton-children-clothing-company/

She's far less irritating as a personage than Peaches Geldof, even if she hasn't played Mass Effect, though.

You never know what happens behind closed doors.

I don't understand what makes people think that anyone who doesn't agree with having a royal family is jealous. I just wonder why they think that. Everybody has likes and dislikes and things in life we don't agree with, A lot of people don't like the Tories,does that mean they're jealous of them......The royal family maybe inspire resentment or a sense of injustice with all the money and homes they have, but mainly the fact that it's just so wrong that a family who through the accident of birth inherits such massive wealth and privilege. What the hell has jealousy to do with it. I'd call it a sense of fair play.

I;m not sure they do thing that Songlark It is just a lazy way of telling people they are not allowed an opinion.

I believe that in New Zealand we tax payers will also be chipping in a hefty amount towards the security bill.

I read the itenery if their down under tour, and it is basically a cycle of

Get off plane
Watch another native dance
Shake hands with local important people
Have a meal/tour of town/police college
Get on another plane

Sounds deathly boring to me, and not what u would want to do if I were visiting a foreign country.

I am not a royalist, but agree that I would rather have someone on the job that HAS to go it than WANTS to do it.

I am a staunch royalist & am for one glad they are not normal.. They are the future King & Queen of England they are not meant to be like me.. Common, bit coarse, not too sophisticated or very well educated.. If they were would there be such an interest in them or an industry surrounding the Royal family that brings millions into the country?!

I don't think many foreign tourists would travel to the UK to come & look at my house or where I went to school or stand for hours waiting to see me go about my business (shopping at Tesco mainly)!!

I don't expect many people to agree with my view but I don't care, I love them all but Prince Edward not so much!!