To think Prince William and his wife are lacking appreciation of their position

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and good fortune?

He just seems a bit of an over-privileged posh boy?

I know everyone says he has lovely manners, but we can expect a bit more than that, surely?

They have just hired a 'forrin' nanny a) after making an enormous PR fuss about not having one b) at a time of high UK unemployment.

The list of god-parents for their baby was a bit multi-barrelled and No foreign royals, as is traditional, but Not the slightest whiff of any demographic diversity either.

There seem to be a LOT of luxury holidays going on with these two.

The uni course he is doing has been especially designed for him and seems designed to prepare him for inheriting the enormous (private) Duchy of Cornwall. Not exactly public-spirited?

In the much-hyped first post-baby interview, he was keen to promote a charity saving Kenyan Rhinos. Nothing intrinsically wrong with that, but the line between animals he shoots for fun and animals he wants to save is unclear and anyhow a charity for under-privileged (UK?) children would have been the nice, publicity-shrewd thing to do, maybe?

For a couple with a great deal of expensive PR expertise at their disposal they seem to be slightly missing the mark a bit too often.

All that fuss and it wasn't a state funeral ! Flipping hell , things are worse than I thought.

and titsalina she might be referred to by her own name if she did anything noteworthy herself, which she has not yet, all she does is that vacuous grin!!

well I care because I am required to pay for their upkeep?

oh do not kid yourself

I thought first Catherine and then William giving up work was a rather bad PR move. People in "The Firm' talk about royal duties as though they are demanding, but really they are not, believe me. Even Princess Anne at full throttle worked the equivalent of a 0.5 post in a good week. I think a bit of rolling up sleeves and showing willing beyond saving rhinos and having views on the future of forestry is sorely needed.

the profits from the Crown Estate more than covers the Civil List

But Nigella, it's basically our land in the first place. Straw Man argument, that.

no it really is not a 'straw man' argument!
booby said that 'she paid for the royals' and i pointed out that the Crown Estate which was turned over to the state has an income which covers the Civil List
What is 'straw man' argument about that?

BoffinMum
I always assumed the Royal Family would ask Catherine not to try to get a job after university, if the relationship was at all serious. You can't screen all the present and furure employees of a company, to see if they're likely to sell titillating tidbits to the tabloids.

And that demand may have already been envisaged when William darling was doing his UCAS form, and could be why he chose a course that wasn't directed towards one career in particular. He needed to find someone doing a general degree, with no ambitions beyond getting a generic graduate-level job!

I think it's best for kate not to get a job, I would imagine that would be more money for security.

What job could she do saftey

Actually, it turns out Catherine did have a job.

www.standard.co.uk/showbiz/kates-not-precious-she-mucked-in-at-jigsaw-6922185.html

Lots of press attention at her workplace, though.

I think it would be impossible for Kate to work. I get that. She could do a hell of a lot more in her royal role though. She does fuck all.

Future mum? She's already had a bay! She's a mum now! I think it was a boy. Definitely can't remember the name, though.

Sorry, misread your post there.

Tits that's endemic though - and I hate it too.

Poor old Sa'ad al Hili's wife and Sa'ad al Hili's mother in law, and Sa'ad al Hili's children... which is the only way they are ever referred to. So yeah, 'Prince William and his wife and child remained in hospital overnight after the birth' and so on is depressingly prevalent.

The Crown Estate is what the royal stole from us in the first place.

I'm hard-core with my rejection of celebratory adulation. Back in 1997, I started training my eyes to pass over any part of a front page that was about celebrities.

It took some effort at first, but now I can read through a library copy of the Daily Mail and be unable to tell what it said about a famous woman on page 3. I can read the front page headline about statins, but ignore the bottom-right box with a picture of a woman in a dress in it!

Is Kate not allowed to be a SAHM then if she wants to?
Or one rule for everyone else, one rule for her.
You can't have it both ways.
whatsthatcomingoverthehill is speaking sense.
So many of these arguments are anti inequality, rightly so and the Monarchy only in a totemic sense. Being nasty about individuals is pointless and churlish IMO.

Is there anybody on this thread who actually knows any of them really really well and can vouch for their character?

If so, please so let us know.

I managed to keep myself ignorant of William and Kate getting married until a week later after the announcement, when I found out it was being declared a public holiday.

"I think a bit of rolling up sleeves and showing willing beyond saving rhinos and having views on the future of forestry is sorely needed."

Yes Boffinmum. The photo op where William and Harry did actually 'roll their sleeves up' and spend a whole hour? half hour? 'tackling the floods' was also grating, in fact. So staged and threw the usual 'work' schedule of three black-tie events a mont, into stark relief.

I know somebody who worked closely with William on a charity project.

His take: nice, polite, friendly, heart in right place, had done homework on charity, happy to muck in. But not the brightest bloke in world, uncomfortable in front of camera and a little bit 'right, have I done enough, can I go now?' in his attitude.

Yes and how many monarchists cannot even be bothered to use Catherine's REAL name? calling her Kate as if a) you know her and b) you weren't aware that she prefers to be called Catherine.

And the monarchy loving public's insatiable appetite for photos of Diana fed her need to be photographed. And led in part to her death. No public appetite for photos=no pap chase to her death.

That is why William hates the press and hates you lot. Don't kid yourself that he doesn't blame the dribbling pro monarchy public.

I must say all these assertions that critics of the RF are motivated by jealousy are rather puerile jibes of the playground variety.

There's also a line of argument weaved through this thread amounting to 'it's none of our business' and/or insisting the RF are just like any other wealthy family. Utterly peculiar argument. And obviously nonsense.