To think Prince William and his wife are lacking appreciation of their position

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and good fortune?

He just seems a bit of an over-privileged posh boy?

I know everyone says he has lovely manners, but we can expect a bit more than that, surely?

They have just hired a 'forrin' nanny a) after making an enormous PR fuss about not having one b) at a time of high UK unemployment.

The list of god-parents for their baby was a bit multi-barrelled and No foreign royals, as is traditional, but Not the slightest whiff of any demographic diversity either.

There seem to be a LOT of luxury holidays going on with these two.

The uni course he is doing has been especially designed for him and seems designed to prepare him for inheriting the enormous (private) Duchy of Cornwall. Not exactly public-spirited?

In the much-hyped first post-baby interview, he was keen to promote a charity saving Kenyan Rhinos. Nothing intrinsically wrong with that, but the line between animals he shoots for fun and animals he wants to save is unclear and anyhow a charity for under-privileged (UK?) children would have been the nice, publicity-shrewd thing to do, maybe?

For a couple with a great deal of expensive PR expertise at their disposal they seem to be slightly missing the mark a bit too often.

OP just comes across as sour grapes.

Jealous of toffs, jealous of foreigns. YABU.

They are touring Australia in April on behalf of the Queen. Naturally, they want to take their baby with them and will of course need child care. Personally, I would choose the vest person I found to look after my baby. Their nationality is irrelevant to me. I imagine Catherine and William feel the same.

What I find deeply ironic is that the people who most impinge upon the privacy of this family are those claiming to be monarchists.

It isn't the Republicans who howled for the queen to return to London and parade her grandchildren after their Mothers death. It wasn't republicans who kept noisy smelly 'vigil' outside the palace and took great emotional succour from seeing two small boys boys forced to look at tatty schmaltzy 'tributes' with several thousand cameras pointed at them.

it isn't republicans buying the trashy magazines featuring pap shots of Kate and her baby.

It isn't republicans demanding to know every thing about them and creating a demand for cheesy walkabouts and going to church shots.

Talk about killing the thing you love.

I think that they probably appreciate it, but think that the tremendously "high price" they pay re lack of privacy and the burden of their "duties" means that they feel it is well deserved.

"It isn't the Republicans who howled for the queen to return to London and parade her grandchildren after their Mothers death."

"it isn't republicans buying the trashy magazines featuring pap shots of Kate and her baby."

Is it possible that a lot of that was/is the Diana fans?

I don't think they appreciate it at all. I think many of them barely conceal their contempt and impatience for the people who stand there clutching their Asda flowers and home made tributes everywhere they go.

And I think that many Diana fans would call themselves monarchists too.

Kate always comes across to me as perfectly pleasant and nice but lazy! Every public appearance seems to be followed by a luxury holiday so she can recuperate! I nearly died laughing when a newspaper said she was on maternity leave!

William and Harry are nice enough I suppose though IMO that is down to Diana.

Actually I am not sure Diana would have been the most 'balanced' mother. I remember in her Panorama interview she'd mentioned how strong William had been supporting her through the separation with Charles. Shouldn't it have been the other way round?

And she also made a comment about children not being the focus (or words to that effect) when two people split up.

I think she had a lot of issues from her parents' divorce and her own place in her family. She was also by her own friends' accounts very fragile and volatile.

I am not a Monarchist (and not even British) but I think Charles has been unfairly maligned as a father. He didn't do the grand PR photo ops with his boys but they seem very close and share a lot of common interests. They also seem to get on well with Camilla too.

Yes op I think your right and all the royal family should relinquish their positions and get down with us ordinary folk, as we all know we all would should we have been born into royalty, position and wealth.

If I could afford a nanny I would pick the one I liked best. Not the most British one

If I chose Godparents for my children I would have chosen from my friends (if I happened to go to posh school they would probably be posh --my real friends are not posh ftr)

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what always makes me howl are the people who say they work hard.

seriously funny comment. these immensity rich, pampered free loaders have absolutely no idea what hard work is. they have absolutely no idea how it feels to worry about money, education, health, safety.

they live like pampered toddlers so it's not a suprise that they generally talk and act like them.

na kim they get the best bloody treatment known to man. they have no worries. no post code cancer lottery for them is there.

probably have whole body scans every 6 months.

that's how they live so bloody long.

Now, now, bodyboohoo, I'm sure cutting the ribbon on a new community centre is really hard work, as is being curtseyed at all the time, and the smell of fresh paint and sycophancy that precedes you would give anyone a terrible headache. Just as well your lady in waiting carries your Nurofen Plus for you.

I think that quite an offensive thing to say bodybooboo, cancer is a disease and it doesn't matter if you have billions in saving or relying on an overdraft.

Actually I expect personal safety is ahuge worry for them. If I was in the public eye and hated it for my position, I'd be afraid for myself and my children. Especially if my mother had been killed due to a high speed chase because people wanted her photo.

There are loads of other rich people in this country who get away with not paying taxes and screwing over their workers.. and who frankly aren't a tourist or media industry. So I'm inclined to put them at the bottom of my rich people who wind me up list.

Actually, I think the royals (or some of them) do work hard. They have a packed schedule of zooming about turning up to things, supporting charitable events, making endless appearances, pretending to be interested in thousands of people, and through all this they have to appear perfect but not smug, not opinionated yet not too boring, not up themselves but not kidding themselves they are normal, well-dressed but not showing off etc etc etc and they must never let the mask crack and swear, fart or look like they are having an off day.

OK, it doesn't compare to the type of hard work some people do, and yes they are rich, but I don't envy them. I work bloody hard myself but I would not trade places with Kate Middleton for anything.

No Republic in the near future then?

If I asked why should the queen be allowed to rule us just because she was born into a family then monarchists would rush to explain that she doesn't actually have political power.

The minute we talk about abolishing the monarchy people (probably the same ones) rush to how awful it would be to give that much political power to someone else.

It's almost as if people are making stuff up because they like being subjects so much.

If/When we do eventually abolish the monarchy you will be able to buy a photo of the queen to bow and curtsey to in private if that's what you need. For around £19.99 you will be able to get a working model (real waving arm).

Jesus. They're human beings. If she dared have an opinion about something you'd all say "what does she know about anything?" They can't win. Not when people who are clearly not happy with their lot in life take to Internet forums to be mean about people who they don't actually know. How do you know Kate doesn't wake up every day feeling enormously grateful for her lifestyle? How do you know William didn't spend years mourning a mum he had to lose so awfully and publicly? People go though similar every day, it's true, they are no different in that respect.

But the truth is that at some point you resent their wealth and that makes it okay to be cruel. They don't ask people to doff their caps. They don't ask them to queue with flowers in the rain. People do it because of some weird need in human nature for hierarchies.

It's just ugly jealousy, plain and simple. I wonder how many people on here do anywhere the amount of charity work they do. And do it under constant public scrutiny they didn't choose.