To be outraged by this (abortion clinics)?

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Videos here showing women at abortion clinics being told that having an abortion will increase their risk of breast cancer, miscarriage, infertility, mental illness and could make them more likely to sexually abuse their children...

www.telegraph.co.uk/women/womens-health/10621459/Abortion-will-make-women-child-sex-abusers.html

How is this happening??

YANBU, it is shocking.

But just to be clear, this isn't happening at abortion clinics. It's happening at bogus "crisis pregnancy centres", which masquerade as abortion clinics to trick women and then attempt to lie and manipulate them to prevent them from having an abortion.

Abortion clinics like BPAS continue to provide the ethical services they always have.

YANBU. That is sickening. How can people justify doing this to themselves?

Sorry, I didn't put that well. I meant how can people's consciences allow themselves to lie to manipulate vulnerable people all in the cause of their own personal morals.

I feel sick watching that. Who the fuck do they think they are?

I've reported your thread asking for the title to be changed. This isn't happening at abortion clinics, it's happening in so called counselling/pregnancy crisis centres.

There was a piece about this on Woman's Hour this morning - should be on iplayer now. There were recordings of real "counselling" interviews in which these claims were made. It was really quite shocking.

YANBU. That is a disgusting way to treat vulnerable women.

Abortion clinics are very highly regulated, so this wouldn't happen in one. However anyone can set themselves up as a "counsellor" and give all manner of dodgy advice.

Huge apologies I didn't about the terminology.

I'm so shocked at how people can make such claims for which there is zero evidence.

I heard it on women's hour too- it was horrific.

Can't remember all the details without listening again, but I think one of the issues, Hobbes, was that there are links on NHS websites to an organization called CareConfidential, & the dodgy counselling services are affiliated to them.

A rep. from the organization was on Woman's Hour & trying v. hard to distance herself from the examples of counselling heard on the programme - said they were "looking into it" etc. - but couldn't offer any guarantees as to when they would be able to say with confidence that this wasn't happening in any affiliated clinics.

Another contributor was arguing that NHS info. shouldn't be pointing women in the direction of such poor counselling.

Care Confidentials Website says "Centres provide educational programmes into schools, colleges and youth groups; plus post-abortion support service into women’s prisons"

blergh

It's fucking awful.

I would urge anyone who has chosen to have an abortion and felt absolutely fine about their decision to fill in this us your story' www.careconfidential.com/TellUs.aspx form from tehir website to stress that tit is entirely possible to have an abortion and for it not to damage your life.

this is the story they are displaying at the moment on their website as an experience of abortion:

"I'm a fourth year student at University and due to graduate this summer. I'm single, with no clear life path and 12 weeks pregnant to a random who took serious advantage of me walking home after a heavy night out. I weighed up every option but I think realistically I knew my decision long before I said it out loud. I understand fully the pro-life argument and agree with many aspects of it but ultimately I'm not ready to raise a child, especially under these circumstances. I couldn't guarantee it the best start in life and I decided it wasn't fair on it - or me.
Honestly though I (naively) didn't realise how bad the procedure is going to be until I read similar stories online and I'm bricking myself. I had no idea it was a fully formed baby that could be seen or that there is an umbilical cord to be cut. I know my head has been in the sand here but nobody really speaks about the procedure just about the decision. It's just difficult when you know you've made the 'right' decision but it's the hardest thing you've ever had to do. I'll post again after Tuesday about the experience and hopefully help someone else in a similar situation as they have really helped me through this."

FOR FUCKS SAKE!

The most disgusting thing I heard in the interviews on Woman's Hour was the claim - utterly unsubstantiated by any evidence at all - that a woman who's had an abortion is more likely to sexually abuse any subsequent children.

Dear God. That is fucking disgusting.

Jeremy Hunt is pretty anti-abortion, I seem to recall (or at least, only under very limited circs). So no chance of our Health Secretary addressing this, I assume?

I listened to this on Radio 4 Women's Hour this morning; totally gobsmacked by the lies these people told.