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to want a better relationship for my DCs with their GM?

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beepbeep · 03/02/2014 10:31

I have 3 DCs (7,5 & 4). We live 200 miles from my DM but up until recently I have spoken most days with her and we go up most holidays.

DM & DSF have not been down in 2 years (DM doesn't work & DSF has 3 day weekends), DSF is great with the kids when we go up but DM shows little if any interest. Their life evolves around them and what they want to do (understandably as it is only them in the house), but DM rarely calls us and its always up to us to do the running up there to see them. When we are there I feel very uncomfortable as I am unsure what she wants from us, she rarely does anything with the children around the house but if we arrange our own thing she suddenly had something organised & there is an awful atmosphere. No one has ever stood up to her before and I (& my DSis & DBro) spend a lot of time on eggshells around her & pacifying her so as not to get 'the look' or her be in one of her moods. I believe my Step Dad is the same, she is definitely 'the boss' in the relationship.

Quite often I end up having the same conversation with he 3 or 4 times, or she claims not to remember conversations (it seems at her convenience) - I'm not sure if she's really forgetful or just generally disinterested in anything unless it involves her. She goes on about money a lot (we struggle but still manage the trips up the her), I have suggested days out together but she says they don't have the money (they have no mortgage and have meals out each week & plenty of weekends away), I have said its not about the money but spending time together, but she says she does spend time with the children. When they we can often be sat in the lounge with my Step Dad & she'll be away from us all in the kitchen playing solitaire on her computer, or she sits in the same room, but glued to her laptop).

I have struggled with PND & anxiety since my DD2 (now 4) was born, but although still medicated am generally fine and now a lot stronger than I have been in the past. 2 weeks ago I decided Id had enough and wrote her a long email telling her how I felt, I worded it very carefully and did not point fingers, or make accusations. I just said that I really wanted a better relationship between her and the children (the 2 youngest say they don't want to go & the eldest will call & do drawings for my Step Dad but isn't that bothered by DM). I said that we obviously had different expectations for when I visit and what mine were (spend time together, have some food in the house (her fridge is usually beyond empty so we take food with us!), I acknowledged these were my expectations and hers may well be different, but asked what they were so we could move forward.

I spoke with her a few days later, she had a complete tantrum down the phone, blamed my email on me being unwell and that she does nothing wrong.

I left it a few days, spoke with her again. Had a very awkward conversation in which she ignored that fact that anything had happened, then Fri I spoke with her again, again she blamed it on me being unwell, that there are no issues and attacked the way in which my DH parents the children (??!).

Sorry it's so long. My DSis & DBro are bait caught in the middle now, they live closer and so don't have to stay with her, they know the issues I'm trying to address but they aren't impacted as much as we are as they can just go home, they find it easier just to try to work around her.

What do I do??

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beepbeep · 03/02/2014 10:33

Also, I'm currently having CBT & it was my therapist who encouraged me to send the email I also had her check it to make sure it wasn't 'attacking' before I sent it!

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HamletsSister · 03/02/2014 10:39

I am sorry for you. We too have a difficult relationship with my DM and I know how much it hurts. You are looking for a grandmother and you don't get one, you get someone who is selfish and not interested. It hurts even more when it is your children she is not interested in.

I would dramatically cut down on your interaction with her. Don't phone. Don't visit. Tell her that you want your visits to be special and that she needs to work with you to make that happen - otherwise there won't be any visits.

She is unlikely to change so you can only change your own expectations and the way you communicate with her.

It is devastating, I know. It is like losing someone. You have "lost" the grandmother you wanted but still have this difficult adult to deal with.

AngelaDaviesHair · 03/02/2014 10:53

Sadly, I think your mother does not want more contact, or more meaningful contact. Nothing that you do or say will change that.

Have a complete break from her, since she has reacted so badly, then see how much contact you want to arrange.

One thought, could you structure your visits differently so you see/stay with your siblings and pop into see your other and stepfather for a much shorter time? Or stay with your mother but also visit siblings and do other things?

I wouldn't take my children there to be ignored, really, even though your stepfather is interested and engaged with them. Your children might be learning that they have to keep subjecting themselves to indifference and unkindness just because the person doling it out is a relative, but that isn't an especially good message to give children.

beepbeep · 03/02/2014 11:09

Thank you, Hamlet - that's exactly how I feel. IT's so hard & sometime's I wish I'd not done anything as I feel like I've opened a can of worms, but I would have struggled to continue and I think for the sake of the children something had to be said.

ADH - I have stayed with my brother a few times, last time the children arranged a Halloween tea, invited her, they were really excited, but she stayed all of 20 minutes and didn't even take her coat off! I also got it in the neck for not staying at hers! She refused to acknowledge any of my feelings and it's all because I'm ill - apparently!! I have to show I'm strong to my children and I'm unwilling for the sake of my own family to continue to be made to feel this way & singing to her tune the whole time we are there. There have been times we have returned with me in tears in the car, but at Christmas we came home a couple of days early as I'd had enough, so as I'd made the first step, I know I had to keep it going and be honest about the reasons why we had left. She doesn't like my honesty!!

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AngelaDaviesHair · 03/02/2014 11:17

The way your mother uses your PND as a weapon against you is really horrid, actually. Good for you for standing up to her. If this is all you get from her is it really worth going at all?

beepbeep · 03/02/2014 11:33

ADH - that's how I feel, I thought it was really below the belt. Each time 'the email' has been brought up it's ended up with her attacking me. I'm unsure as to whether to ignore when she does call or just try and tell her I've said what I needed to say and if she isn't willing to give me her expectations of our visits or some constructive feedback on how she feels (Other than that everything is fine & she "has no expectations") then I shall be changing my behaviour to protect myself and the way my children are affected and won't be discussing it any further.

However I have said the latter (though not as fully as that) and she just started shouting "well I DO want to discuss it" but then isn't able to do other than bringing up stupid tit for tat arguments and will not actually acknowledge my feelings.

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AngelaDaviesHair · 03/02/2014 11:46

I think then that 'discuss' actually means 'get you to back down'.

beepbeep · 03/02/2014 11:56

I agree!

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