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my relationship with my brother - at breaking point

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wantanewname · 29/01/2014 22:23

I’m posting this because of an incident that happened over Christmas but that is really the breaking point for me, the problems have gone on for years and years.

My brother and I never got on as children, we are in our 40’s now. Looking back I can see I was horrible to him but he was horrible to me too. I was always (and still am) much more emotional than him and got upset easily, he was always quietly sarcastic. By the age of 16 or so I wanted desperately to be close to him and it seems like I’ve spent my whole adult life trying to make him like me and failing.

Although we’ve both tried to do things together (we have similar aged children) we just don’t get on. If I’m in his company for more than a few hours he is sarcastic and finds ways to ignore me or put me down but I’ve kept on trying.

He married about 15 years ago whereas although I’ve had children until 2 years ago I wasn’t in a steady relationship and his wife has simply always been as cold as ice towards me. I’ve tried and tried but she has always (to me) made it patently clear she doesn’t like me.

This Christmas we all stayed with my elderly mother. Their 12 year DD who had previously always been fine was very rude to me on a number of occasions. They weren’t there and didn’t hear the incidents but there were a number of them (for example she said I was having ‘a hissy fit’ when I wouldn’t continue to play monopoly with her when she was cheating at it! – I think this is a totally unacceptable way for a 12 year old to speak to their adult aunt). My view is that she is mimicking her parents’ disrespect for me. On boxing night we were all watching TV and the DD said ‘wantanewname can you be quiet?’ as I said something to my 8 year old DD. She said it with a smirk on her face and very rudely and so I ignored her. This was followed by my SIL shouting at me ‘My DD has asked you to be quiet. How dare you ignore her and be so rude, she’s talking to you, you wouldn’t like it if I was ignoring your DD etc etc’. My brother backed my SIL up, the DD carried on smirking and even my poor mother said ‘Yes Wantanewname you should’ve been quiet etc’.

To say I was humiliated was an understatement. I feel totally undermined and feel it is the straw that has broken the camel’s back. There is more but this is becoming an epic. I don’t want conflict, I just want out. I don’t want anymore contact but wondered what others thought? I feel like they (my brother and his wife) have treated me with so much disrespect over the years and I just feel at the bottom of the pecking order and can’t be around them again. I have friends, I have colleagues, I have a partner (who unfortunately wasn’t there or I’m sure this wouldn’t have happened as I feel it was a form of bullying as I was there on my own with my children) who all are polite, respectful and like me.

(have put this in relationships as well)

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KittensoftPuppydog · 29/01/2014 22:31

Just wanted to say that I feel for you. Sometimes it's better to give up with people. It's hard to admit it but sometimes you just can't have the relationships you want.

fryingpantoface · 29/01/2014 22:32

It sounds like you need to say something to them about how their daughter is speaking to you. The other option is to step away from the relationship.

if it helps, i have a brother who is judgmental and only says pointed things to me when dh isn't around. It's sly and hurtful, so i do know how it feels.

wantanewname · 29/01/2014 22:38

thank you both. I do appreciate not hearing it's me. I feel that everyone (including my mother) was against me so really felt like crap.

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ddubsgirl · 29/01/2014 22:39

you need to stand up for yourself and step away from them you will never have the relationship you want with your brother so dont expose you and your dd to them anymore

wantanewname · 29/01/2014 22:50

what hurt the most though was that my mother said to me afterwards 'Someone should have stood up to you years ago'. I have done nothing apart from being a more emotional child but I'm in my forties now and still being treated like crap! I have a very good relationship with my mother but she took their side over this (I haven't and won't mention it to her as she isn't well) but it did make me wonder if it was me.

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CoffeeTea103 · 29/01/2014 22:56

At the age your brother is nothing you can do will make him change his entire treatment of you. I think you should really start distancing yourself. They've allowed their dd to speak like this, she will one day turn around and treat them the same way.
Stop trying to get him to act like a decent brother would, rather focus on the people who value you and make you happy.

wantanewname · 29/01/2014 23:02

again thank you. All this is making me feel stronger. I was shaking as I wrote all that. It was the worst Christmas I have ever spent and from now on it will be me, my children and my partner (and my Mum if she wants to come to us).

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Balistapus · 29/01/2014 23:21

Walk away from this harmful relationship.

I was recently in a similar scenario with my sister. We haven't really ever got on - in part because my mother used to play us off against each other. I feel she doesn't respect me - let's me down all the time, cuts me off for months if I ever get frustrated with her behaviour. Last year a sequence of events left me so hurt by her that I realised I could no longer see her if she continued to behave that way.
The only thing that I regret is that rather than making myself no longer available, I tried to talk to her about it. Big mistake. My words have been manipulated and used against me so that instead of being an adult who tried to resolve an issue by talking it through, I'm being portrayed as the person who's holding a grudge against my sister for doing something and "won't let it go".

Just take control of the situation nod distance yourself from this man who is hurting you, even though he is your brother.

MrsBarlow · 29/01/2014 23:22

This sounds exactly like my brother, every time we get together he's unpleasant, snide etc so since Christmas I've taken a deliberate step back and just not had contact with him beyond what is necessary. It feels great!!

Balistapus · 29/01/2014 23:23

And not nod

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