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To deplore the ever-increasing use of the word, butt, when you mean bum?

118 replies

Breadandwine · 28/01/2014 12:22

The proper word for that part of our anatomy is arse, or bum or, in polite society, bottom!

'Butt' is a measly-mouthed substitute creeping more and more into our language.

I mean, "Get up off your arse you lazy scum-bag!" (When addressing your DH.)

Or, "Get up off your bum you lazy scum-bag"

Or, "Get up off your butt you lazy scum-bag!"

Which has the greater impact?

The last is a complete cop-out, folks - and we should object to it every time we hear it or see it!

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squoosh · 28/01/2014 16:31

Groovy has got to be American! I can only say that word in an Austin Powers voice.

I can only imagine people aged 100 or over using the apostrophe before phone. That's seriously retro.

I think I say telly, TV and 'da box'.

ProfondoRosso · 28/01/2014 16:52

Some folk do say 'arse' in at 0:37 Grin

Solo · 28/01/2014 17:01

Telly here too. Use okay, but then again it is a World wide word now.

Rufus I suppose butt is short for buttocks; had never thought of that before! still won't use it though!

BUTT DEFINITION/S HERE

Ericaequites · 28/01/2014 17:03

Butt is a Southern and Texan American term. In New England, we still say bum.

JonSnowKnowsNothing · 28/01/2014 17:05

Don't like butt either. But not as much as I loathe people writing "ass" - how are they pronouncing it? Most people presumably wouldn't say "he acted like a complete ass?" Sounds terribly Enid blyon! (Julian, do stop being an ass!")
So, if you're pronouncing it "arse" why not write arse??

mrspremise · 28/01/2014 17:10

Apparently in the U.S.A. a pork shoulder joint is called a pork butt... Sniggers again

NewtRipley · 28/01/2014 17:15

YANBU

I'd like to complain about the creeping use of "smart" to mean cleaver or intelligent as well.

I don't mind new words, except when they swallow up perfectly good alternatives

Also:

"awesome" - over-used adjective that means children no longer use any of the many synonyms, most of which would be more apt in the circumstances they tend to use the word.

I hate it when language shrinks

NewtRipley · 28/01/2014 17:15

clever, not cleaver

curlew · 28/01/2014 17:18

I don't much like bum for some reason, either. Bottom is fine.

And don't get me started about people who talk about changing a baby's bum- eughh!

suskia · 28/01/2014 17:18

"Butt" niggles but not as much as the insidious creep of "mom".
And "center".
And middle aged white people saying "my bad".

limitedperiodonly · 28/01/2014 17:37

squoosh you are groovy, baby, but Austin Powers was English Wink. Look at those teeth.

Except that English teeth were not that bad in the scheme of things because we had NHS dentists when I was growing up.

I have a mouth filled with amalgum, but at least I have all my teeth. My dad didn't.

People in their 20s quite often don't have a single filling. I've watched people laughing on Celebrity Big Brother in envy.

I was watching a documentary on Anna Nicole Smith (all right, so it wasn't Kenneth Clark's Civilisation) and I remarked to DH that her 25 year old cousin appeared to have just three teeth in her head and only one of them was a bit white.

He said: 'She's poor. She's probably never been to the dentist.'

And DH is by no means a lefty red flag waver.

Solo · 28/01/2014 17:42

Oh yes!! 'mom' and 'my bad' Ugh!!!

squoosh · 28/01/2014 17:44

I've never heard a non American say 'my bad'. Is that a thing in the UK?

Also I think 'Mom' is traditional in the West Midlands rather than an American import.

Solo · 28/01/2014 17:49

My bad is said all over the place in the south of England now at least. it's been said to me and I've been all Shock. Not good!

Topseyt · 28/01/2014 17:58

I just see nothing at all wrong with good old Anglo-Saxon. Nowt wrong with having an arse, IMHO. Grin

LadyBeagleEyes · 28/01/2014 18:08

My ds18 uses my bad. I look at him like this Hmm

SconeRhymesWithGone · 28/01/2014 18:20

No one says groovy in the US anymore. Very uncool. Wink

It's funny about Feds. Is that used now in the UK as slang for any sort of police? In the States, we only use it for Federal as opposed to state and local authorities, so it would apply to the FBI but not to NYPD for example.

Also, I am pretty sure that our use of "ass" for buttocks is actually a derivation of "arse." We lost the 'r' along the way.

DoJo · 28/01/2014 18:40

Mom is widely used in the midlands, which is presumably where it was originally exported from to the US. I really don't think that any of these words are replacing their predecessors - they might be 'trendy' at the moment, but in time they will just be another option to be used alongside all the other great words we have.
Also, I was also taught that 'pardon' was common (presumably because it is a shortening of 'I beg your pardon' which was often used as the equivalent of 'did you mean to be so rude?') and 'what' was the 'correct' term to use.

Snowdown · 28/01/2014 20:02

Don't like telly, sounds sloppy much prefer tv. Is tv supposed to be American too because I've been using that for nearly 4 decades, not that I'm bothered or precious about Americanisations.

ProfessorSkullyMental · 28/01/2014 22:57

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Solo · 29/01/2014 00:43

Whenever we youngsters said/say pardon me (after a burp for instance), my parents always replied 'granted' as in 'I grant your request for a pardon'

Mike101 · 10/02/2014 01:28

We say bum there is nothing wrong it. I said to DS sit down
he did not so I said sit on your bum please and he did
I dont like other words that mean the same
so we always use the word bum

Mike101 · 10/02/2014 01:36

Yes we only use bum here I said to DS sit down
he did not so I said sit on your bum please
and he did, it is the only word we use and like

BrennanHasAMangina · 10/02/2014 02:16

Well, what do Y'all think about 'front bottom'? .

I think that unless you're prepared to ban all American media from your home, then you're fighting a losing battle Grin. And many of the 'Americanisms' mentioned on this thread are slang and not necessarily widely used by the general population. Most middle-class North-American adults would refer to 'bottoms', 'behinds' or perhaps 'rear-ends' in polite company. 'Butt' is a bit crass and childish.

NadiaWadia · 10/02/2014 05:35

I don't like the gradual Americanisation of British English, when we have perfectly good words of our own. And like other say, 'arse' and 'bum' are much better words than 'butt'! 'Feds' for police is just stupid and meaningless in a UK context.

Have you noticed that everyone now says they were 'raised' in, for example, Birmingham. Only 20 years ago or less you would have said you were 'brought up' there, 'Raised' being purely American and rather laughably folksy sounding. Now it seems to be standard, even the BBC uses it. However I will continue to say 'brought up'!

Yes, language evolves, and all that, but due to the influence of American media I think what may happen eventually is that British English disappears entirely. Shouldn't we make a conscious effort to hold on to a British identity and resist American cultural imperialism (is that what it is)?