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Why does home schooling appeal ?

456 replies

SeptemberFlowers · 26/01/2014 09:36

I myself would be far to scared to do it with my dc's as I'd be needing to reach for the Wine most weekends of having to teach them curricular that I was shit at at school.

Why does it appeal to so many people ? There are a few children in the next village (live in a rural location) who are HE but only because their mother doesn't trust other adults with her children. I know this an extreme case but the only one I know personally.

How would you know your child is learning all the correct syllabus for different subjects ?

OP posts:
ilovesooty · 26/01/2014 20:34

morethan I don't see any problem with the way your LA does things, but it seems that not all are so conscientious in working in partnership with parents.

Commander6 · 26/01/2014 20:35

I could be wrong, but when they visit, it seems to be just a cursory visit.

ilovesooty · 26/01/2014 20:36

And Mellow I know what the UCAS official stance is. I was hoping for some details of specific universities who make flexible offers.

MellowAutumn · 26/01/2014 20:36

Commander6 get a grip - why would they have to wait to be a mature student, that bit of the thread was just about not having traditional qualifications that tends to apply mostly to mature students have me and I dootyr discussing it.

MellowAutumn · 26/01/2014 20:40

Ilovesooty perhaps do your own research if you are that interested as I say I personally have had offers from Leicester and others for international marketing masters with only a levels and business experience ,I'm sure I'm hardly unique :)

Commander6 · 26/01/2014 20:40

Mellow. You do seem to be a bit rude.

teacherwith2kids · 26/01/2014 20:41

(Sorry, the line about the Mirror should say that to read a typical tabloid newspaper requires reading ability at around NC level 3.

This is the 'expected level' for 9 year olds - and is perhaps an illustration of why 'not reaching the expected level at 11' is not the same as 'unable to read and write'.

Of course, some pople do leave school functionally illiterate, even if they remain in school throughout their statutory school years. But not the 1/5 quoted for primary school children in the Mirror article)

MellowAutumn · 26/01/2014 20:43

Probably but hey my time is limited :)

Commander6 · 26/01/2014 20:44
Smile
ilovesooty · 26/01/2014 20:45

Many thanks for your input, Mellow but I was asking about undergraduate courses. A shame you're unable to help there.

morethanpotatoprints · 26/01/2014 20:50

ILovesooty

You are exactly right, however I still operate my right to not have a home visit and nobody gets to see my dd.
This is because some authorities don't know the role of the H.ed liason and have been known to take it into their own hands as assessing families as welfare or ss would. They have very little power tbh and quite often don't realise this.
I know of plenty who have been treated appaulingly and it doesn't surprise me that when some people move areas they don't register with the LA.
My experience has been good though, the liason is a H.ed person herself, but I would be on my guard if she left tbh.

teacherwith2kids · 26/01/2014 20:52

The inspection / visit thing is difficult. Upthread, it was agreed that the use in some groups of 'HE' for girls is not education - and therefore should be classed as 'missing education', not 'home education'. However, to investigate this, a) someone has to be aware of the specific child and family and b) someone has to go and check up on what is happening.

There does therefore need to be some type of inspection / enforcement / regulation regime to reduce this type of activity at the 'margins' of HE, taking advantage of the HE laws - and the GRT girls I knew of were probably the tip of a larger and more diverse iceburg.

It is where to draw the line between 'avoiding abuse' and 'un-necessarily hassling the essentially well-meaning' (bearing in mind that there are many under-the-radar HE families who choose not to make themselves known to LEAs who are less than sympathetic) that is the issue.

MellowAutumn · 26/01/2014 20:53

I applied to a few for undergraduate distance courses ilovesooty and was referedd to a master's by all including Leicester, Leeds, York and a couple of other more modern sites :) due to my relevant experience. My friends Dd has a place on a course at the London school of fashion just on a portfolio and some garment samples - her sewing and tayloring skills were learnt in her family's business - I understand they thought they were better than most graduates:)

teacherwith2kids · 26/01/2014 20:55

(I should have added an 'in my opinion' to my second paragraph. There did seem to be some agreement upthread that the use of HE laws to 'draw a fidgleaf' over being kept at home to cook, clean and look after siblings was an abuse)

MellowAutumn · 26/01/2014 20:56

I think it will be difficult to find anything other than individual examples as each case is unique I'm also sure there are some unis that only go on a level results - I'm also surer they are less rich places to learn :)

morethanpotatoprints · 26/01/2014 20:57

I left school with nothing no O levels at all.

I have a HND, BA Hons 2.1, PgCE with Masters level credits, and a C&G level 2 in Literacy and Numeracy.

The day I passed the Numeracy I cried, it must have been bucket loads.
My Dad who had tried to support me with Maths through my childhood died a few weeks before I passed. He knew I would though, which was all that mattered.

You are never too old to learn and it doesn't matter at what age you learn to do certain things, who cares?

ilovesooty · 26/01/2014 21:04

Thank you Mellow

morethan - congratulations.

monkeynuts123 · 26/01/2014 21:05

Sometimes they get more money out of you for a masters or the course is struggling. It's not a good thing that universities let people in with barely any qualifications, mind you the universities you mention are not particularly good ones, sorry to say.

ilovesooty · 26/01/2014 21:06

Good point teacherwith2kids

morethanpotatoprints · 26/01/2014 21:12

ilovesooty

Thank you, I know its daft, but it was my proudest moment.
I had the most horrendous schooling and during my PgCE had counselling for the abuse and bullying, both physical and mental I received from school. It started when we were asked to reflect on a maths lesson we had at school, wow.

Not the reason for H.ed though, my dc have all had very positive experiences on the whole from schoolsthey attended. However, I must admit to not needing too much pushing towards H.ed when dd showed the same issues as I have and we had decided it was viable.

MellowAutumn · 26/01/2014 21:12

Monkeying they probably do but they are also fairly heavily regulated so have to meet certain levels. I'm sure I'm not an incredible catch or they are incredible universities but they are still unis accepting candidates with other than trad qualifications. I have accepted elsewhere that is possibly slightly more prestigious to the snobbier observer :)

Commander6 · 26/01/2014 21:18

morethan. Why would you be frightened of a home visit. I have fostered and you should see the size of the file. Nothing to worry about though.

I would only be concerned if there were suddenly a whole load of HomeEdders who were hauled in front of the court for something or other.

I think that it matters hugely how old you are at uni.
You lose sight of your peers.
Also you are going to be on low level earnings for a lot longer.
And this will impact on all sorts of things.

Commander6 · 26/01/2014 21:19

I prefer to aim high in life rather than aim low.
Doesnt mean me or the kids will achieve it, but I dont see any point whatsoever in aiming low.
Try your best and see where it gets you.

MellowAutumn · 26/01/2014 21:23

Commander6- I cannot even begin to educate you on the benefits that mature students bring to higher education or how industry and the country benefits from older people extending their education.

morethanpotatoprints · 26/01/2014 21:24

I was offered a place from Uni of Manchester, Masters Socioloy and you have seen my background. My subject isn't Sociology btw.
At the time the school of Social Sciences was in the top 4 nationally, it was around 2008/9?