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Why does home schooling appeal ?

456 replies

SeptemberFlowers · 26/01/2014 09:36

I myself would be far to scared to do it with my dc's as I'd be needing to reach for the Wine most weekends of having to teach them curricular that I was shit at at school.

Why does it appeal to so many people ? There are a few children in the next village (live in a rural location) who are HE but only because their mother doesn't trust other adults with her children. I know this an extreme case but the only one I know personally.

How would you know your child is learning all the correct syllabus for different subjects ?

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MellowAutumn · 26/01/2014 18:06

TamerB - could you show me the stats to back this up ? The stats actually say that a child HE by a low educationally achieving parent will actually do better than a schooled child from a MC family .

TamerB · 26/01/2014 18:08

If parents are not a support and influence for good, the child will not do well.
It won't give a clear picture Mellow, but it is better than nothing! SN and dyslexia can easily be assessed by the right person.

TamerB · 26/01/2014 18:08

I would love to see a link to your stats Mellow.

TamerB · 26/01/2014 18:10

A MC family with a child in school are going to make a huge difference. I am a prime example, as are my children. I am well educated, I could not have provided for my dyslexic son the way school did.

mistermakersgloopyglue · 26/01/2014 18:11

I guess by stages I mean that you wouldn't cover complex equivalent fractions with most 6 years olds, or wouldn't expect most 6 year olds to use much more than basic punctuation in their writing etc, these things come at later stages.

Also, what do you do if you have something (I'm thinking particularly in maths or English here I suppose) that your child just isn't interested in learning? Does it just get skipped? Or do you wait and try again another time?

These are genuine questions by the way. Home educating is very far away from everything I know!

MellowAutumn · 26/01/2014 18:11

There are things about HE, they way it follows a child's natural interests and grows with their ability in a natural way rather than a pace dictated by the rest of the class or what the NC says they should be doing this week - an engagement and responsiveness that cannot be replicated in schools.

It is not for every family and every child but I wish people would read /understand just a little before they base their opinions on the one HE family they know ;)

MellowAutumn · 26/01/2014 18:12

TamerB - read the thread I have posted them or google them

ilovesooty · 26/01/2014 18:14

I've read that link and I'm still unsure of why or how HE students can or should get university offers without the required qualifications.

Commander6 · 26/01/2014 18:15

I know where it was done badly[mum herself didnt like school herself so was not keen for her child to attend], very badly [dont even ask], and relatively well[both parents Cambridge educated]. Though these children had quite poor social skills, were frightened of all sorts of things, and were quite or very pale, as the parents themselves were certainly not into the great outdoors.

Commander6 · 26/01/2014 18:15

Can I ask the Homeschooolers on here?

Do you live in afflent places or places where there are not many jobs to go round locally?

MellowAutumn · 26/01/2014 18:18

mistermakersgloopyglue - I'm sure not every thing in the NC is covered by every HE family - probably why a lot of them HE is so they don't have to as much of it seams work for works sake . A lot of studies particularly in America show we teach complex maths to early for many children to the detriment of basic functional mats and also that it turns off interest every early especially among girls. If your child is following a topic its amazing how many other things it brings in - understanding graphs if they are interested in biology for instance -mine picked up some very complex graft ideas in minutes because they were interested in the results and how to read it rather than a made up question with no real world application.

My oldest too gcse maths at 14 - had to learn a few new concepts but most breezed it - Now doing As maths at 15

morethanpotatoprints · 26/01/2014 18:18

TamerB

I am working class, left school with nothing but am very well qualified now, am severley dyslexic and can support and provide for my dd far better than any school could.
That is not because I am better, but because everybody is different and come with their own set of circumstances.
Unfortunately, many parents do send their dc to school and abdicate all educational responsibility.
It isn't always about education in the academic sense neither. It is about the person forming into a character, sometimes it is better to be a way from an institution to achieve this. By taking my dd out of the situation she was in, the culture of our neighbourhood and community she has been able to experience far more outside this and is still happy to be a part of it now, but has far wider experiences.

Sparklysilversequins · 26/01/2014 18:19

I live in London commander. Lots of jobs here.

TamerB · 26/01/2014 18:20

My parents in law left school at 15 yrs of age, without formal qualifications. My husband has a science degree from a top university. It is ludicrous to think they could have HEed him and got him there or that he could have done it himself! He did well at school and had excellent teaching. They supported as best they could but they couldn't even help with his homework.

MellowAutumn · 26/01/2014 18:20

ilovesooty - usually because they are already studying the subject at or above university level - they have proven self study skills and qualifications are guide lines not rules for the sake of rules . Not quite sure why you think its so outrageous ;)

Sparklysilversequins · 26/01/2014 18:21

ilovesooty do you think mature students should get those opportunities to be accepted to uni without formal quals too? Maybe their early educative experience wasn't great but they've reached a point where uni would be right for them.

MellowAutumn · 26/01/2014 18:23

TamerB - that's because you have NO idea how HE in particular autonomous education works. At uni most courses have very short actual taught hours - most is self study - this a a particular skill HE teaches -So they would not have had to teach him he would have taught himself.

LetZygonsbeZygons · 26/01/2014 18:23

can work to DCs level of understanding (severe learning difficulties)without anyone piling on too many expectations of her,

a quiet envioronment without the meltdowns from a noisy surrounding,

no more teasing and bullying from peers for being disabled and 'thick/retarded/stupid/etc etc' -even said by a teacher.

can take her to places for a lesson/day out without it being crowded and a trigger for meltsowns.

no more dreaded school run in all weathers and the hateful comments by precious parents and their fashion shows .

and a million other reasons!

ChocolateWombat · 26/01/2014 18:24

I have known quite a few people who Home School. in my experience, they are often Christians. They often haven't started with home schooling but have taken their children out of school. Sometimes they are people who have moved abroad a lot and want to maintain consistent schooling, other times they have been disappointed with their experiences of schools. Some of this has come down to the worldly influence on their children of being in school. They feel they are being exposed to ideas and morals that they want to keep their children from. They have decided that they want to be the people having the most influence rather than other people. So it is about schooling, but is often broader than just that.

TamerB · 26/01/2014 18:27

It is utterly ludicrous to think he could have taught himself science to get a university place at a top university aged 18 yrs!

MellowAutumn · 26/01/2014 18:31

TamerB - why ? Lots of HE kids do it - not all their parents have science degrees or even science A levels. People ARE DOING IT READ THE LINKS - kids with parents with virtually no qualifications are doing better than MC children with qualified teachers / Just because its outside your experience or understanding does not make it ludicrous or untrue I'm afraid.

Commander6 · 26/01/2014 18:32

Maybe it works for the very brightest pupils [so no need for parental input] and sometimes for the lower achieving pupils, as in they wont get bullied at home and will come out with being brighter than they would have done at school?

But at some point, as in Tamer's example, they are going to have to get some formal qualifications from somewhere?

Commander6 · 26/01/2014 18:33

Personally I dont have interest in reading HE links.
I would want independent non biased links.

Sparklysilversequins · 26/01/2014 18:35

There's a good link to "The Guardian" further down Commander is that any good for you?

MellowAutumn · 26/01/2014 18:36

They are mostly independent peer reviewed studies Commander6 quoted in the timers and observer - and lots of He edders do do exams most IGCSE's which internationally are better regarded than GCSE's