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Traumatic birth - AIBU to not want to go back to hospital

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kiki22 · 24/01/2014 23:53

I had a terrible with back to back birth with forceps huge blood loss internal and external stitches 3rd degree tears lots of internal bruising, then infections and re stitched due to big gap where stitches dissolved to soon months of pain just from sitting or walking. Now 2 years on and still in pain from giving birth, sex is still sore and uncomfortable for a few days afterward also squatting or running cause not pain but discomfort and area is very tender to touch.

I discussed with Dr 6 months ago and she agreed due to my fear and how upset I was at going back to give it until the 2 year mark so now we are here and DP is pushing me to go to the doctor for a referral to the hospital but I just don't want to TBH I would rather never have sex in my life again than go back. I know I am BU in that I can't ignore it forever but the idea of going back makes me feel sick and light headed I feel like I need more time but DP says if I don't go now I might never go.

He is very concerned about my feelings over the birth (I seen forceps on TV recently and had to run to throw up which freaked him out) but I don't think it's unreasonable to want to do it in my own time. AIBU refusing to do anything?

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MrsTerryPratchett · 24/01/2014 23:55

No one is being unreasonable here. It sounds like it is still very raw and painful for you. Have you had any counselling or similar?

Orangeisthenewbanana · 24/01/2014 23:57

So sorry to hear about your experience - would echo the suggestion to request a referral to a Women's Health counsellor (sometimes they accept self-referrals too).

kiki22 · 24/01/2014 23:59

No counselling I've always thought about it but just not asked for it

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AnotherStitchInTime · 25/01/2014 00:16

kiki having had a traumatic delivery myself I can completely understand how you are feeling. I think you may have post-traumatic stress disorder and could really benefit from talking to someone.

PansOnFire · 25/01/2014 00:17

Two years is a reasonable amount of time for fear to fade, I'm not being insensitive here at all and I can completely empathise with you which is why I'm replying. You need to have some counselling, there is no way you should be dealing with this on your own if after 2 years it still affects you. I hope you get the help you need and that you make peace with the trauma.

YANBU to want to avoid hospital, but once you've worked through it with a professional you won't feel like that anymore. I'm so sorry you had such a terrible time, you've been amazing to deal with all of that without any help but I think you should give yourself a break and let someone help.

AnotherStitchInTime · 25/01/2014 00:20

A list of links where you may find support

23jannc · 25/01/2014 00:21

I haven't had a traumatic birth but I have had some very traumatic procedures done in hospital. Like you, I struggle to think about them.

I had an operation done under sedation - the sedation went very wrong, and I got very distressed/aggressive. I don't remember it except in flashbacks. I knew if I took myself back into that environment it would all come flooding back. It was so horrible as I felt I had lost control of myself, and these people had taken over me, I couldn't stop them and I felt powerless of my own body even. I didn't want to go back to an environment where that could happen again.

I had to, eventually, I needed more help. I was terrified but I told the staff and they were lovely, so supportive and caring. I had a procedure in the same theatre, awake fully this time and whilst I was terrified, they were so wonderfully helpful - the anaesthetist held me in a hug the entire time.

Every thing in that theatre and the ward, it reminded me, but I talked myself through it as did the staff. Simple measures in my case - like when they placed the epidural, they told me what they were doing, and they let me listen to the radio, talked to me, didn't admonish me when I started sobbing. I thought I was going to faint so many times, I never did..

I haven't solved it all. Probably never will. The position I was in when the procedures were done panics me and I need to do a lot of controlled breathing. I've had that taught to me by my GP, which helps. Sometimes when you're anxious you breathe a bit quickly which can lead to horrible lightheadeness. The breathing GP and hospital suggested is like what you do when in labour (although I won't profess to be the expert, I've never had children nor childbirth!), a big sook in through the nose, then blowing an imaginary feather away with your out breath, was what I was told.

But it is very much achievable. What has happened, has happened. When we go back, we aren't sending ourselves back for more of the same. Things can and will be different, I'm very sure.

Even when you have initial chats and appointments, perhaps that's as far as you want to take it, it will be so very different. It will be a calm, relaxed environment so far removed from a traumatic and frightening birth.

You might even find that they give you a cuppa and biscuit! (Or at least, such are my experiences after coming over faint during transvagimal scan)

You know yourself that you need to have things down below at the least talked over with the experts. Unfortunately a referral to the hospital is where that starts.. I do wonder though if prior to that, perhaps you might be able to talk to your GP again and see about some counselling, so you can talk it over..?

Perhaps as well it might be possible to chat to someone who works for whoever you are referred to (I guess gynae), who could talk it over with you as well? Have spoken to my gynae on the phone a couple of times and it's quite good, helps you get to know them without being in front of them.

I know like I said I'm not exactly the same as I haven't had a child but I hope I've helped somewhat.. Keep in touch if you like, happy to chat anytime.

Am off to bed anyway hope you sleep well tonight x

Jacksmania · 25/01/2014 00:33

I had a similar birth to yours (if you want to, come find us on the Ragged Bits thread, we're very good at hand-holding). I could not even look at the hospital where I had DS without shaking all over and feeling light-headed and ill, any time we had to drive by it, and to a certain degree, I still feel like that today.

It sounds to me like you have Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD).
PTSD

With PTSD, the trauma and flashbacks do not fade over time as you might think they would, in fact, in some cases, if left untreated, they worsen. I'm not saying this to frighten you, rather to let you know that you're not weird or strange or trying to freak people out, and that you might need some help getting over the worst of it.

Feel free to PM me, if you want, or come visit the Raggedies - I'm in a different time zone to you and we're about to go out for the evening, but if I can help, please let me know.

FannyBazaar · 25/01/2014 00:33

Have you had a debriefing after the birth? You can request this with a Supervisor of Midwives which can help you come to terms with the way the birth was managed. Not sure if they can meet with you outside of the hospital premises. It is important to do this if you can to understand all that went on and why.

YABU refusing to do anything because it will never resolve that way and become harder to change the longer it is left but I fully understand your fear. I had a long fear of hospitals after a hospital stay and was fearful of ever being admitted or treated in a hospital. I have gradually got better but still have moments of distress.

Would you have to go to a hospital or could you be seen by a Gynae clinic elsewhere? I was given the choice of seeing gynaecologist at GP practice or hospital, same team.

kiki22 · 25/01/2014 00:45

Thank you all I will look into speaking to someone I know I have to but have been putting it off now the 2 year mark is approaching I feel like I have to. I am not usually the type to look back or be dragged down with things in the past my sister is bi polar and my parents and grandparents often say thank god Kiki is always ok we never need to worry about her so I kind of feel like i'm letting everyone down by not being able to just dust it off and move on.

Jacksmania It is getting worse when DS was tiny I still watched OBEM but now I can't look at a birth the puking incident was while watching american horror story and it really worried DP I watched 12 episodes of horror murder blood and guts but couldn't look at the forceps :(

FannyBazaar I still don't know half of what happened and I hardly remember anything apart from all the blood and DP looking like he might faint.

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Jacksmania · 25/01/2014 00:51

You are not letting anyone down. PTSD is completely out of your control, and especially trauma around a baby's birth (from what I've learned - I"ve done quite a bit of research on this in the last six years) seems to be worse because you're not only traumatized by the threat to your life, but by the fear of what could happen to your baby.

I still can't look at forceps. Six years on, I still feel like I'm going to hyperventilate or faint.
It's shit. But you're not alone.

Jacksmania · 25/01/2014 00:53

I just found this thread, from two years ago, that I posted on about PTSD. Maybe it'll help.

MrsTerryPratchett · 25/01/2014 00:57

You don't need to worry about this meaning you are being 'dragged down'. PTSD is a really common reaction to this kind of trauma. It is really treatable as well. You aren't letting anyone down. Jacks is lovely BTW so do PM her if you need some support.

Wibblypiglikesbananas · 25/01/2014 02:33

Just PM'd you.

Mouthfulofquiz · 25/01/2014 08:29

I think I you should definitely ask for counselling and also remember that you can go to other hospitals for treatment if you don't want to attend the original one. I hope you get some help, I'm sending you virtual hugs x

isisisis · 25/01/2014 09:25

I don't know anything about birth trauma/PTSD but the advice you've had above sounds excellent & really really sensible.
Just a few little thoughts -
Would it be helpful to go to a different hospital? A specific consultant who's recommended by your GP or a friend? Once you had a referral you could ring the consultants secretary/ nurse specialist to explain the situation so they understand before you turn up at clinic. An appointment first thing in the morning/afternoon so you won't be kept waiting/worrying? Would an initial private consultation be possible? You'd have a lot more time, would be guaranteed to see the consultant you choose & if you've invested cash would be more likely to go? If they suggest any treatment you could then ask to be transferred back to their NHS list for it once you're more confident. Hope you manage to find a way through this.

MrsAMerrick · 25/01/2014 09:45

You need to establish if the pain you are feeling is physical or psychological and then get the approoriate treatment.

I had a long birth, not traumatic like yours, but ended up with an episiotomy and many stitches. At 6 months post birth it wss still horrendously painful, couldn't have sex, couldn't use tampons, it really hurt. Went to GP who eventually referred me back to gynae, this was 12 months post birth, and I was told it was all psychlogical, I was just "afraid" of sex. I knew it was real, I could feel where it hurt. The gynae wanted me to have counselling, but I insisted on a second opinion.

I saw another gynae who immediately diagnosed it as a failed repair to the episiotomy, and arranged for me to have a repair done under GA. It was amazing, I took a couple of weeks healing, but then it was like the whole giving birth had never happened.

Please do get some proper medical advice and listen to what your body is telling you. If you think it is physical then see if you can have it repaired.

Good luck

kiki22 · 25/01/2014 10:24

Thank you all.

I'm fairly sure it's physical I'm going to speak to my GP on Monday

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Jacksmania · 25/01/2014 16:06

Good luck! Let us know what she says :)

wobblyweebles · 25/01/2014 16:41

You have classic PTSD symptoms (physical reaction to things that remind you of the situation, avoiding the place that it happened).

I hope your GP will help by getting you counselling for the PTSD. Once you feel ready I would encourage you to talk to an gynae about the physical pain you feel - a Fenton's Procedure may well help you.

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