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to be enraged at all the smoking on train platforms?

81 replies

matildamatilda · 24/01/2014 21:00

Train platforms are non-smoking! It's not like I can wait for the train somewhere else. I have asthma and also smoke stanks.

So many ticket checkers standing around and I have never seen them ever say a word to the people smoking right in front of them.

They can make tannoy announcements about late trains but they can't make announcements, "Remember it's illegal to smoke on the platform!"

There are smokers on either side of the platform every single morning of my small-town station. The man behind the counter just sits there staring into space when he's not selling tickets. The smokers are in his line of vision. One morning I said to him, "Sorry, is smoking allowed on the platform now?" "Oh no, not at all." "But look..." And he shook his head and said, "Well I can't... I can't..." I just walked away from him.

I've written to [Region] Rail and got a lame response that I ought to call transport police when I see someone smoking. It also said that members of the public can be irate when asked not to smoke, so that was probably why the rail station staff were not approaching them.

So I'm supposed to call transport police and restrain the smoker until they arrive? Whilst the paid rail staff person stares into space?

Really I don't get fussed about crowds, kids, music, bikes or what-have-you on the train. But I'm so pissed off here it's not even funny.

Earlier today I nearly said to a ticket checker, "Yeah I'll show you my ticket when you ask that guy to put out his cigarette."

I've become that person.

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matildamatilda · 24/01/2014 21:28

I want to report the speeders too!

Enraged of...

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GlitzAndGiggles · 24/01/2014 21:28

Growingold I thought ecigs were legal to smoke in public places?

Alisvolatpropiis · 24/01/2014 21:28

Yeah. You are that person.

PetiteRaleuse · 24/01/2014 21:28

Honestly? 10 years ago pubs were smoky. 15 years ago people were smoking in restaurants and trains. Go a bit further back and they were smoking in cinemas, all public transport and offices.

I smoke and hate second hand smoke. In an open space like a station I move a metre to the left and can't smell it anymore.

You are more in danger of speeding motorists than from smokers. Walk away if it bothers you.

perfectstorm · 24/01/2014 21:29

Cigarette smoke is disgusting. The smell makes me feel sick, and if close enough it makes me cough as well. Asthma and cigs don't go. It infuriates me that the bastard companies are allowed to get very young people hooked, when everyone knows the things kill you and do sod all else.

Having said that, IMO there should be somewhere in stations smokers can congregate for a fag, which the rest of us could avoid like the plague. It's an addiction and they aren't to blame for it. And all the smokers I personally know are incredibly thoughtful about not inflicting their habit on others.

Anyway: YANBU. I hate it, too. One of the best days of my life, when smoking was banned from all public premises.

growingolddicustingly · 24/01/2014 21:30

Glitz I think C2C may have a bylaw that prohibites e cigs - not sure. I know that although it is legal, pubs etc can request you don't and ask you to leave if you do Sad

BertieBottsJustGotMarried · 24/01/2014 21:31

I have seen signs up at tesco etc saying please don't smoke ecigs in here.

Inertia · 24/01/2014 21:31

YANBU.

However this thread will doubtless demonstrate how the poor hard-done-by smokers should be able to ignore the laws they don't like, and it's all your fault for daring to think you have any kind of right to be able to breathe comfortably.

WorraLiberty · 24/01/2014 21:34

Unless you're pressed up against them, sucking the smoke from their mouths, I wouldn't worry yourself about it.

It's a couple of smokers in the wide open air

It won't harm you.

matildamatilda · 24/01/2014 21:34

Yeah, I think part of me is traumatised from having to spend all those years working in smoky places. I used to get sick from it. Things were so different, weren't they? There was no getting away from it.

And now things are so different that on the rare occasion I am stuck next to someone smoking I have an overblown reaction like, "No, no, no you people don't get to do that anymore!"

Also, that person.

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GlitzAndGiggles · 24/01/2014 21:35

Inertia some of us do actually follow the law and not smoke in places prohibited such as platforms and bus stops. I think it's pure ignorant not to. Where I live it's the bus drivers who sit at bus stops smoking whilst waiting for their bus to arrive. Some are very selfish yes but not all!

gamerchick · 24/01/2014 21:36

yeah ecigs are evil...all that water vapor going everywhere. not to mention the poor lickle government doing a little handflapping circle dance trying get them banned because of all that lovely tax cigs bring in.

waiting for trains is boring.

Alisvolatpropiis · 24/01/2014 21:36

Hiding this thread because it is so tedious.

There are bigger problems. Even on a very minor scale, there are bigger problems.

morethanpotatoprints · 24/01/2014 21:36

I wish it was the platform we stand on. A bloke was smoking the other day, I thought should I join him, but then thought nah, I'm the poor bugger who would get fined.
Perhaps they should have designated areas to allow smokers.
Although a platform is hardly an enclosed space, you can move away a bit.

perfectstorm · 24/01/2014 21:37

Yeah. When I was in really smoky places in my teens and early 20s, I would cough up white membranes afterwards with black streaks and blood streaks. It was horrible. I used to wonder how smokers coped - do they cough that crap up, too? Or is it healthy lungs trying to expel poison? Or is it because I have asthma? I wonder.

I love how smoke free public spaces are now. And I love that I don't have to sit through friends smoking around me in pubs and after meals out as a matter of course.

YouTheCat · 24/01/2014 21:38

As a smoker, yanbu at all. There's no smoking so they shouldn't smoke and the staff should bloody well enforce it.

If I have to smoke in public I do it as considerately as I possibly can. In fact a woman even thanked me this week because I had walked 10 metres from the bus stop before I lit up, well away from her and anyone else.

BrianTheMole · 24/01/2014 21:40

Its outside, its a non issue.

matildamatilda · 24/01/2014 21:41

Maybe instead of being enraged I'll be grateful that I don't have to sit on smoky platform, then on a smoky train, then in a smoky office, then in a smoky pub.

But I reserve the right to give lazy smokers the stank-eye.

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Trinpy · 24/01/2014 21:43

Yanbu.

Maybe it does depend on the station. I travel by train twice a week and there are always people smoking on the platform. The station I travel from has decent sized platforms, but the one I travel to only has one very short platform. It really isn't possible to move away from them. There are plenty of signs and regular tannoy announcements.

I really don't think it's unreasonable to expect people to follow the rules if they want to travel by public transport.

TaraLott · 24/01/2014 21:43

Never seen it happen since it was banned.

perfectstorm · 24/01/2014 21:45

Youthecat, I'd have thanked you as well. That's really thoughtful.

5OBalesofHay · 24/01/2014 21:51

Is 'you people' a phrase you use frequently, sounds a but twatty.

matildamatilda · 24/01/2014 21:51

I wish it was the platform we stand on. A bloke was smoking the other day, I thought should I join him, but then thought nah, I'm the poor bugger who would get fined.
Perhaps they should have designated areas to allow smokers.
Although a platform is hardly an enclosed space, you can move away a bit

This thread will probably reassure you wouldn't get a fine. You have to tell me though: How did the other people on the platform fit into the decision-making process you describe above? The ones who aren't smoking but sitting enjoying some peace and fresh air before the train comes? Do you just not notice them or are they less important than you?

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LEMmingaround · 24/01/2014 21:52

Selfish, ignorant, rude and stupid - smokers.

I can't stand it - i lost my dad to dementia and lung cancer because he smoked. My mother smokes - she is ill now because she smokes but wont have it tells the doctor "i smoke, so what" Hmm my 23yo DD smokes, breaks my heart

They cost the NHS god knows how much, they inflict their filthy disgusting habit on everyone else - nothing will ever make me feel differently about this.

I loved my Dad so much, i had to watch him drown in his bed as his lungs filled with cancer, he didn't know anything though because his mind was so addled from vascular dementia, caused by smoking Angry He didn't see his grand daughter because he smoked - he would have loved her

caruthers · 24/01/2014 21:52

Enraged is a little OTT.

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