Posting here for traffic. Travelling from Israel into Jericho...any advice?

[minouminou]

Visiting Israel next week, with DS, who's seven. Both on UK passports, and we're hoping to fit in a day trip to Jericho, which is in the Palestinian Territories. I know we'll be alright as Brits and tourists, but I'm wondering if anyone's had any hassle getting out of Ben Gurion airport on the way home...do you get a stamp in your passport upon entering Palestine? Etc etc...

Thanks a lot!

You should have added in a question about parking, using disabled toilets or folding up buggies minou

Sorry, I agree with a lot of the posters. Although I've encouraged you to see some of Palestinian sights, I wouldn't advise it with a DC. If you do fancy exploring stick to the more touristy areas.

Ok, off to bed now.
Thanks very much for all your help, ladies.
I'd say it's 60/40 in favour of not going at the moment, but I'll keep you posted.

You're probably best off talking to people once you're in Israel and seeing what you can do and what they think.

Have a great time!!!

She is not going to Hebron and I still don't understand your post.

Because you seem to be suggesting that it's perfectly safe to take a 7 year old to Hebron and Nablus because you took your DC to refugee camps. It's not. In fact, it's very dangerous. A British passport is not some of kind of automatic protection.

I'm sure the South Sudanese also want the world to know about conditions in refugee camps there, yet I wouldn't take my DC there to find out.

Have just taken Dcs to refugee Cannes and the Palestians would like us to do the same. It is not dangerous at all.

I have very strong feeling about the illegal, immoral and evil occupation of Palestine. But all that aside I don't think its a good idea and you should go.

Haven't been to South Sudan so can't comment. have visited two Palestinian refugee camps with dc and the Palestinians are absolutely desperate that their plight is made public.
The op is only going to Jericho on a tour and will have no problems so let's not spoil her trip.

Your experience (presumably being given a tour) in one particular refugee camp (and they're not really refugee camps any more given that they've been there for nearly 70 years - some of them are basically suburbs of cities, and yes, I have been to refugee camps in the West Bank and Jerusalem) does NOT mean it's safe to visit Hebron and Nablus (or indeed generalize to EVERY Palestinian refugee camp) with children.

Why not just take them to see how the Palestinians are living in Syria and Lebanon? There are some fantastic refugee camps there as well and it'll be a real eye opener to see how they're treated there. Since it's perfectly safe to visit refugee camps, right? The Syrian refugees living in Zaatari refugee camp just over the border in Jordan are also desperate for the world to know about their living conditions, please do take your DC there as well.

Sorry, I think you're quite naive if you think that Hebron and Nablus are safe to visit with children just because you felt safe going to one particular refugee camp. You have no idea about the instability, both in terms of the relations with Israel and within internal factions as well.

Have lived in a refugee camp, thanks.

Have visited refugee camps in Jordan, too.

Shaksuka do you think 70 years living in a refugee camp improves the situation.

The situation in Syria is dire and the most vulnerable are suffering as a result. This goes for conflicts.

Bottom line Don't Go

Yes, of course it makes a difference.

It's over-crowded but there are cement houses, connection to public water, many connected to public sewage, established schools, hospitals etc. There are far worse slums in many cities around the world. UNRWA is well established and funded and provides many services which many other similarly deprived populations don't get.

I'm not saying there's not injustice. Of course there needs to be a permanent and just solution (this isn't the thread for that). But these are not refugee camps in the way, for example, Zaatari, is a refugee camp with tents and horrendous living conditions. The collapse of the Palestinian economy is a direct result of the intifada and I'd agree with tourists supporting Palestinian enterprises as much as possible but they're not in poverty because they're in refugee camps (like in Zaatari for eg) but because the economy has collapsed.

66 years.

Shakshuka your moral compass is so far off its unbelievable.

Your blaming Palestinians for having an uprising, how long should they wait and suffer?

Is 66 years not enough, the temerity of those bastards wanting freedom who do they think they are.

Yeah, OK. I think you should start another thread if you want a political argument. My moral compass is just fine.

BTW, Israel has only occupied the Palestinian territories since 1967. What happened before then? Why was there no Palestinian state in the WB and Gaza Strip in 1948?

Those Arabs! The Muslims can piss off to Saudi Arabia and the Christians can piss off to Rome.

I don't understand comment chipping. It seemed rather racist.

What bothers me most about the arguments you use is that doesn't even try to recognise the Palestinian people have no right to return to the home.

You use semantics to avoid talking about theft, evil and suffering.

Does your argument negate the fact that an entire nation of people have been evicted. Do you feel better. Or do you not care.

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My ! Was to Shak, after the accusation of racism.

Racist, is evicting an entire nation of people and only letting another race live there.

What about the one million Jews who were expelled from Arab countries around the same time? Are you equally upset by the injustice that they suffered?

Of course I am