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Is it unreasonable to think that humans are instinctually( shallow..

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Newmummee · 19/01/2014 22:03

If you read this article and indeed I've read this somewhere else too that babies have evolved to have big eyes and look endearing and cute etc so that the mothers will want to take care of them and not abandon them.

If this is in fact true and inherent in us as humans then are we actually quite shallow that evolution had to make sure we looked after our children!

www.parents.com/baby/care/newborn/newborn-guide/

Your thoughts?

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mrspremise · 19/01/2014 22:20

instinctually is not a word Grin

MonstersBalls · 19/01/2014 22:22

I can't be arsed to care Grin

Newmummee · 19/01/2014 22:22

www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/instinctually

Dictionary says it is???

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HeartShapedBox · 19/01/2014 22:23

how does that theory pan out when not all babies are cute and plenty of babies are abandoned?

Newmummee · 19/01/2014 22:23

Can't be arsed to care but can be arsed to reply..... Interesting

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Bootycall · 19/01/2014 22:26

mmm most new babies look like Winstone Churchill, mine included.

didn't abandon them though.

Janorisa · 19/01/2014 22:26

Well I've learned a new word tonight...

SPsMrLoverManSHABBA · 19/01/2014 22:28

Not true.

my sister was an ugly baby yet mum kept her. She really had a face only a mother could love Grin

She's beautiful now.

Most baby's look like potatoes

BertieBottsJustGotMarried · 19/01/2014 22:28

Surely it's just that we associate big eyes/heads and round features with babies which ignites in us snuggly feelings of protectiveness, rather than it being the other way around?

And it's not necessarily shallow to take visual and other sensory information into account - the reason that poo smells so horrible to us is because it could be harmful if we ate it. But dogs for example will often eat various kinds of animal (and presumably, human?) poo because it isn't unpalatable to them.

Juno77 · 19/01/2014 22:31

If this was evolution, then babies being cute would have evolved from babies being ugly and thus being abandoned/unloved.

If the babies were so ugly and unloved, they wouldn't have survived, as they'd have been abandoned.

This paradox cannot exist, ergo this article and idea is bullshit.

Bootycall · 19/01/2014 22:33

bet you glad you started this thread op. Grin

NynaevesSister · 19/01/2014 22:33

It rather sounds to me like how they used to say women wiggle when they walk and have big breasts to attract mates. When really they are just how women are built and so therefore men (heterosexual) find those features sexy. We did evolve to walk that way to attract men we evolved hips to carry children.

Babies look cute to us because we love babies, not because they have big eyes.

BertieBottsJustGotMarried · 19/01/2014 22:34

Ha Juno Grin

Newmummee · 19/01/2014 22:43

I don't wiggle when I walk

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WitchWay · 19/01/2014 22:45

Most baby animals look cute - look at lambs for instance - lovely with mint sauce & gravy & cute & grow into hideous reptile-eyed moronic sheep

SPsMrLoverManSHABBA · 19/01/2014 22:45

My arse jiggles but there is no wiggle

Newmummee · 19/01/2014 22:46

I'm more of a wobbler than a wiggler if truth be told

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Juno77 · 19/01/2014 22:47

newmummie yes you do. You might not realise, or it might be a tiny single wiggle, but unless you have somehow evolved differently (or of course, you have hip issues) then your hips absolutely 'wiggle' as you walk.

It would be physically impossible for you to walk without your hips raising on simultaneous sides.

Juno77 · 19/01/2014 22:47

Alternating - not simultaneous! Grin Hmm

WitchWay · 19/01/2014 22:48

I wiggle - DH the pervert contrives to follow me upstairs whenever possible Blush Grin Wink

SinisterSal · 19/01/2014 22:50

I think I heard something about this 'research' except it was coming form the angle that puppy dogs developed puppy dog eyes so they'd look like babies and we'd look after them.

God I'm sure there is real science somewhere in this area but no wonder it just comes across as evopsych bullshit when this is how it percolates to the layman

Newmummee · 19/01/2014 22:50

Well that's it then juno I'm going to have to get my OH to walk behind me to film me so I can check how much of a wiggle I do have!! I'm curious to know now

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Juno77 · 19/01/2014 22:51

You should be able to feel your hips moving as you walk.

You don't need to film it.

SPsMrLoverManSHABBA · 19/01/2014 22:54

I've just walked up and down the kitchen and ended not been able to walk naturally Grin

I am now catwalk worthy

chosenone · 19/01/2014 22:55

Apparently this is way they gave ET big eyes too, so the audience would fall in love with him. It worked.

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