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to think that large scale immigrantion harms easten europe more than us

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ReallyTired · 15/01/2014 12:22

Countries like Poland has spent thousands of pounds educating their most able people. These gifted and hard working people then to move the UK for a better life. They pay UK tax instead of Polish tax. This means that they do not pay back the costs of their education to Poland. Poland needs money if they are going to improve their economy and lifestyle.

The brain drain of talented Poles to the UK means that it is harder for Poland to improve its intrastructure and make high quality employment opportunities in Poland. Polish businesses need high quality staff initative to generate revenue.

Rather than taking a little englander point of view of closing UK boarders to Eastern Europeans I feel the EU should look at improving opportunites in poor EU countries.

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coffeeinbed · 15/01/2014 14:05

Yes, Polish and students from other EU countries can and do apply for student loans here.

LRDtheFeministDragon · 15/01/2014 14:12

It looks as if only tuition fee loans? Or is that wrong?

www.gov.uk/student-finance/loans-and-grants

I wonder if perhaps it has to do with courses in bits of the EU being cheaper than over here, but I would like to know more about this.

Thetallesttower · 15/01/2014 14:15

You can study in the EU and pay a much smaller amount, I think you can study for free in sweden for example and there are lots of English language courses. The UK is still popular though, as it doesn't require upfront fees, but rather loans, so if you go say to German, it will be a lot cheaper, perhaps only £2000 a year plus living costs, rather than £9000 but you have to pay upfront. Nothing is stopping you going and doing cheap or even free courses in the EU, or applying for bursaries the same as home students, you have to pay living expenses though.

ReallyTired · 15/01/2014 14:17

The costs of living and the courses are cheaper in some parts of the EU and I think it would be great if British students could take out a student loan to study within the EU. It would reduce the cost of training and broaden the student's horizons living in another country. British students living in Poland would boost the Polish economy.

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LRDtheFeministDragon · 15/01/2014 14:20

It would be kinda nice.

I would much rather students didn't need to pay such high loans over here, though, and that our own universities were properly funded. Funding students to study in the EU will just make our own universities poorer, drive up the amount of money they need to make off students, and price poorer students even further out of the market.

coffeeinbed · 15/01/2014 14:24

The same as any UK student.
The thing us they can only pay them back if they stay and work in the UK, otherwise they never reach the threshold.
So in staying and working here they pay their taxes and pay back the loan, so I do suppose their countries lose out.

someonestolemynick · 15/01/2014 14:25

Studying in Poland is free for EU citizens...

www.frse.org.pl/sites/frse.org.pl/files/publication/1291/heinp-net.pdf

Google is your friend.

ReallyTired · 15/01/2014 14:30

"The thing us they can only pay them back if they stay and work in the UK, otherwise they never reach the threshold. "

If if a UK student goes and lives abroad they don't have to pay back their student loan.

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coffeeinbed · 15/01/2014 14:35

Isn't the paying back according to the pay and not where they live?
Regardless of where the student is they have to pay back unless they are under that.

LRDtheFeministDragon · 15/01/2014 14:44

really, that's definitely not true! UK students do have to pay loans back if they're outside the UK.

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