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middle class uniform

320 replies

southeastastra · 11/01/2014 23:57

st albans today was like a boden/joules catalogue

why do the middle classes have to follow such uniform? it's all very samey, those designer welly boots and colourful rainwear

don't get it myself, surely if you have ££ to spend on wear why pick fatface/white stuff boring brands

OP posts:
Felix90 · 12/01/2014 20:03

I have a Barbour waxed parka and have just bought another jacket from them for the spring time. Also just ordered a load of stuff from Joules for my DD. I am far from middle class - I live in a back to back terrace in a pretty rough area of Leeds Blush

ohmymimi · 12/01/2014 20:06

Crowler - 'vest' outed you (unless you like to flaunt your lacy undergarments as outerwear Wink ).

Crowler · 12/01/2014 20:08

Ah ha. As an American you mean? Guilty.

Athrodiaeth · 12/01/2014 20:09

What are we supposed to be wearing then? If Primark, H&M, New Look and Matalan are chav, Per Una is dowdy and WS/FF/Boden/Brora/Hobbs/Whistles are all posh, what's left to wear?

Tweed?

Ballgowns?

Homemade?

ohmymimi · 12/01/2014 20:11

Smile I have lots of lovely American friends and relatives in rural NJ.

Athrodiaeth · 12/01/2014 20:11

Incidentally I buy White Stuff/Boden etc because I like bright colours. Most lower-end shops love to stock up with black, white and grey, and I don't wear them at all. Give me bold patterns and things to layer. Also, I want cotton, not acrylic and polyester, and things that can survive afew goes in the washing machine.

ohmymimi · 12/01/2014 20:14

Athro - tweed ball gown? Very Viv Westwood.

Dromedary · 12/01/2014 20:14

I know what you mean, OP. Went to St Ives over the holiday and it was teeming with people all basically dressed the same. It struck me so strongly that I explained the concept of "how to tell that someone is rich by what they're wearing" to the DCs. My current favourite "I'm very rich" symbol is the welly (green or patterned) that you can ADJUST! Costs loads more than a normal green welly, which is presumably the point.

nkf · 12/01/2014 20:19

People wear similar clothes because they shop in similar shops. Why not? Are we supposed to be designing our own clothes and have talented little dressmakers run up our ideas.

Of course not. You go to Primar/Zara/M&S or whatever. You choose from a narrowish range of choices. Fine by me.

formerbabe · 12/01/2014 20:23

I always thought a sweater slung over your shoulders and tied by the sleeves just under your neck was very middle class.

charitymum · 12/01/2014 20:24

Boden and Joules got a bit cheap and common now. Hardly high end shopping.

Bunbaker · 12/01/2014 20:26

Boden and Joules are cheap Shock. I think their clothes are pretty expensive.

ohmymimi · 12/01/2014 20:28

One of my idle pastimes is sitting in a cafe, with a chunk of passion cake, in a well-known Cotswold village 'posho' spotting. I have nothing against them, I love them - they dispose of their unwanted wardrobe items in the charity shops for me to scoop up. My wardrobe thanks them.

MrsFruitcake · 12/01/2014 20:29

What's wrong with being middle class? If you said that wearing a certain brand made you look working class there'd be uproar.

SirChenjin · 12/01/2014 20:29

Boden and Joules can hardly be called cheap.

MintyChops · 12/01/2014 20:33

Another vote for Muck Boots pist, I love mine....

Caitlin17 · 12/01/2014 20:34

ohmymimi

Here you are a tweed ball gown. I don't own this but I do have several eccentric Harris tweed jackets (and a Vivienne Westwood dress I adore )

www.thistleandbroom.com/shopping/apparel/wool/dichotomy_moreinfo.htm

GarlicReturns · 12/01/2014 20:35

If you wear certain clothes and ALSO are a barrister I'm guessing you're middle class even if your father was a coal miner, in that sense we have more mobility than 100 years ago, but somehow if you come from a long line of earls you can CHOOSE to be a coal miner and Tatler might write a feature on your clever way of making coal mining seem so cool and upper-class.

This is GENIUS!! Spot on, CHJR :)

I'm really enjoying myself with extremely cheap clothes at the moment. I'm middle-aged, on benefits, living in Tinytown, Shireshire, and a fashion addict - therefore at complete liberty to devise an eclectic look using chain stores, ebay, and garments I make from random materials. It's the most fun I've had with clothes since I left uni! I do maintain a narrow wardrobe of 'uniforms', too, for the rare events when I need to fit in with some group. The only uniform I shan't attempt is upper-middle-to-landed. It's easy to do with cast-offs in a town like this, but that's the very reason I don't. I'm surrounded by people who keep horses and shoot their dinner; clothes can't make me fit in with that and I'd be a wazzock to try.

I found the class systems of Latin American cultures fairly easy to comprehend. It's old-fashioned colonial elitism, with the usual nods to the arts for the poor & the dark of skin. Pretty much like us, but skin colour correlates very closely to class thanks to the slave heritage. I was fascinated to find the actual ruling classes speaking a different version of the language amongst themselves: archaic forms, but not the forms currently spoken in Spain and Portugal. I think there are parallels among other cultures (and it may be coming back here? I wonder.)

It's great being a foreigner! Your class isn't immediately discernible, so you can move easily around the social tiers :)

Belize · 12/01/2014 20:54

Crowler, that sounds more North London mc to me. OUt in the Burbs it is all White Stuff and Boden.

That's so funny NearTheWindmill!

EnianShelZman · 12/01/2014 20:54

Garlic, I am a foreigner and I have to disagree. I come from an upper-middle class family, married to an English husband who is a high earner, nice house, kids in private schools/grammar yet most people assume I must be living in a dodgy part of the town or renting my home. I wanted to redesign our drive way and the guy refused to do it because he did not believe me I own the house and just last week I was trying to order some bespoke furniture but the guy was refusing to give me the price, just going on and on how pricey it is and where I can find a cheaper one. really pisses me off.

Belize · 12/01/2014 20:55

Oh hell thread's moved on like 6 pages!

Dromedary · 12/01/2014 21:00

I do think that it's important to people that others appreciate that they are well off. Ties in with ownership of SUVs etc.

3asAbird · 12/01/2014 21:05

enian thats sounds shite just like pretty woman when she tried to buy clothes.

I have noticed in some shops if im too casual then security guard watches me more closly.

I do think uniforms also very regional its not just class.

Some small towns have hardly any choice my hometow new look or dorothy perkins.

Living in city im spoilt for choice now.

But as we get older shopping can become more tricky.

anyone tried the mary portas range yet looks nice but pricey love the way she dresses but often thourght lots must dress like that in london.

see much more interesting fashion in city centre burbs can be so boring.

GarlicReturns · 12/01/2014 21:09

OMG, Enian, I'm so sorry to hear that! How infuriating!! I must admit I was speaking as a white Brit in Latin America. I've heard horrid stories like yours from black people living in various European countries, for example.

Do you look very young? I just wondered whether that might explain people's reluctance to take your money (happened to me when I was an overpaid 20-something.) Whatever these people's excuses, anyway, they're obviously petty, narrow-minded bigots! I hope you rise above their foolishness.

EnianShelZman · 12/01/2014 21:16

For some reason a lot of people assume I am Polish. In fact my best friend, a dark haired Italian is always mistaken for a Polish too. I had never been to Poland yet people often ask me what's polish food is like or how's the weather over there. My friend even Googled some facts about Poland because she was asked the same questions. I think people assume I must be on benefits/uneducated because of my accent. I think I dress nice and look presentable but as soon as I open my mouth the attitude changes straight away.