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To think state should run more creches?

31 replies

3asAbird · 10/01/2014 12:31

Often ponder in 8 years now had kids why creches/adhoc childcare does not exist?

to have a any childcare need contract with preschool/nursery set pays, pay term in advance.

no flexibility at all.pay when they ill or on holiday.

I know some gyms have creches which seems good idea encourage parents exercise.

but with so many people on non set, zero hours shifts.
people having no faily or freinds nearby.

would be handy. i would happily pay hourly rate so dident have to take younger 2 to gps with me.
Flipping parents evening only one of us can go.
school plays/sports day/assemblies can be nightmare.

Im sure it be good for the economy.

even at school theres breckfast club limited numbers, no after school club and local holiday provision patchy and expensive at best.

wonder if it exists in other countries?

surly as long as its safe
the staff trained
ratio good guess thats be hardest t predict as business model its the not knowing in advance

Also being settled within a setting but cant help feel it be so helpful it wouldent be free but would be affordable.

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AuntieStella · 11/01/2014 07:20

I didn't think "free childcare" was given to anyone. The funded hours are for early years education with an approved provider. Parents might see it as their 'time off', but that's not the reason it is funded.

So funding anything explicitly as childcare would be a whole new policy, and if the choice were, as suggested above ' early years education v childcare for convenience' then I doubt the policy would garner much support.

It would be interesting to see how the Aussie "occasional care" centre works, because if the private sector can make it work there, then that's a massive business opportunity.

TwatWeevil · 11/01/2014 07:37

I think the idea is a good one.

My gym crèche was a godsend with DS, as they let me drop him off and then leave the gym to do other things. I had to prebook and buy a block of sessions in advance, but it did mean I could go to the GP or even nip to the supermarket and post office without him in tow, for less than £5 an hour. Brilliant!

IIRC there used to be a crèche in the shopping centre in Milton Keynes? Used it once and it was brilliant, had a small soft play frame in it so the children could spend an hour throwing themselves down the slide whilst mums and dads browsed in peace. But it went out of business, so presumably they had the business model or pricing wrong?

It would be great to have a neighbourhood crèche, where maybe 90% of the places had the be pre-booked/pre-paid to allow them to call in staff (a pool of local people, even SAHMs could earn some money with basic training and bring their own DCs with them to work).

But in reality, nothing like this is going to get state funding in the present economy. SAHMs are not the government's priority.

Bakerof3pudsxx · 11/01/2014 07:40

If there was so much childcare about I would worry about the quality of the staff in them
Yes they might have the qualifications but do they actually like children?

3asAbird · 11/01/2014 15:05

thinking back asda or could have been gateway had a creche remember parents putting me in it.

Also when worked for safeway large out town store that had creche and all staff were nneb trained could have been in days preofsted,

Sainsburys has explore learning thats ofsted registered, membership and drop in.

Theres enough provision for long term care

preschools, nurseries, childminders ad school nurseries.

its more occasional drop in care and less ridgid hours for staff on zero hours who dont know what hours they working week to week and they may need childcare too

its not really a sahm issue but it is true that sometimes medical appointments would be lot easier minus kids,

I dnt have an mums at school who could ask to have my kids.
dont have any neighbours who could.

looked at some short courses at college they 2-3hours a week.

just thik if childcare had major shakeup and we had more choice it would be good thing for mental health and the economy.

I take it a job seeking parent takes kids job centre with them

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3asAbird · 11/01/2014 15:06

ikea has a creche 3+hour max i think.

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ElectricalBanana · 11/01/2014 15:49

I am a childminder and I offer a near to flexible service as possible. I only charge for hours needed ( eg parent only works 10- 3 then they pay 5 hours) I don't expect to be paid all day. I also don't have my full quota on three days out of the five so I can offer flexibility.

I charge what I call core hours e,very week ( these are the contracted hours but are to the 15 mins invoiced) and then parents can have extra hours at the same rate. I don't charge extra fees for lateness ( just normal rate to the 15 mins) as long as they are here before 6 pm and have called or text.

Parents worry I may be going out but as I have such good relationships with them they would know if I had something to go to in the evening...I say so.

I am as full as I want to be... I like two little ones at a time because I have only two knees! It gives me more opportunities to really play and be close to the babies with this ratio. And it offers the flexibility if needed.

I know I am not a void business woman but I don't have children leaving and I get parents calling all the time. The parents I gave treasure me as much as I treasure their little ones.

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