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To think my ground rent people are robbin' bastards.

38 replies

ENormaSnob · 08/01/2014 14:53

Ground rent due 1/1/14 to cover period 1/1-31/12/14.

Letter arrives dec, cheque for full amount sent, think no more of it.

Arrears letter today chargin me extra £67 saying i havent paid. I fucking well have. The amount in full.

I am so angry i cant stop crying.

Wtf do i do now?

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limitedperiodonly · 08/01/2014 16:58

The worst that can happen is that you'll pay. The best is that you'll be able to sod off.

I meant:The worst that can happen is that you'll have to pay. The best is that you'll be able to tell them to sod off.

And I haven't even started drinking yet Wink

ENormaSnob · 08/01/2014 17:34

Sodding off sounds preferable atm tbh!

I just think the way this is being dealt with is immoral.

They could purposefully 'not receive' monies and extort a further 70 quid off people with an arrears letter.

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FourAndDone · 08/01/2014 19:27

Speak to bank first thing.
Cancel first cheque.
Send another cheque (recorded)
Wait and see if they pursue fine any further.
Think about what tests they are while drinking gin.
Job doneSmile

FourAndDone · 08/01/2014 19:28

Twats* ffs!Blush

ItchyTeeth · 08/01/2014 19:52

Hi, when was the notice of ground rent served as they must give you thirty days from date of notice,but less than 60. With the invoice did they issue a 'Notice To Long Leaseholder Of Rent Due' with the Commonhold and Leasehold Reform Act 2002 section 166 information on it? I collect GR for a client and have never fined anyone, but I might try it now as a lot of people do not pay, even after reminders and I am the one who ultimately gets it in the neck!

FudgefaceMcZ · 08/01/2014 20:18

Photocopy your cheque stub with the date on it and take it in to them (don't give them the stub they'll only lose it). If they've not got it then either way it's not your fault, if it was in the post and post office have lost it then they should be trying to recover money off them not you, if you posted it 1st class or above it should be insured by the PO I think so tell LL/factors to take it up with them. I always post anything with any money in recorded now because of this kind of bollocks, they seem to just try it on without even giving you a chance to explain that it was sent.

ginmakesitallok · 09/01/2014 18:35

But op hadn't lost anything if they haven't cashed the cheque? She just need to cancel it and write a new one? Producing a cheque stub proves nothing. From their point of view they haven't been paid. It's not up to them to sort out, it's up to op to make sure they get their money on time.

Anyway op, how are things today? Any further forward?

BecauseIsaidS0 · 09/01/2014 18:43

My ground rent people, every year, send me a letter saying that I'm late for ground rent and they will charge me £25 "administrative costs" BEFORE I'm even due. I just pay the ground rent and ignore them. I think they just try it on for good measure.

ENormaSnob · 09/01/2014 19:48

According to their letter their office was closed 23/12 to 2/1.

Recieved the notice thingy mid dec. Was away 6 to 9th dec and it was there when we got back.

Cheque sent 20/12.

This is the first year payment has been requested on the 1/1 too. Previous years it was always 31/1.

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Lmclmc · 09/01/2014 20:49

If the cheque has been cashed get a copy of the front and back of the cheque from your bank and you can see who. cashed it, you lease will more then likely say that they can impose late payment charges. I work for a management company and if someone disputes any charges the account is put on hold until the dispute is resolved, we would also remove the late fees if the cheque is found to be cashed by us, can't say this the same for everyone though!

ginmakesitallok · 10/01/2014 15:59

But you still haven't said whether or not the cheque was cashed and whether you've paid them yet?

wowfudge · 10/01/2014 16:34

I would reply to their snotty email and state (again if necessary), when you posted the cheque and that you would appreciate it if they would check whether it has actually been received and let you know.

Obviously you need to find out from your bank whether the cheque has been cashed.

If they tell you it hasn't been received and your bank confirms it hasn't been cashed, I would ask them for their bank details so you can make an online payment immediately. Just refuse to accept their 'fine' - completely unreasonable if you have sent payment in good faith as requested. And cancel the cheque of course.

limitedperiodonly · 10/01/2014 16:59

As I said before, I'm no legal expert so please take the advice of someone who is rather than me, but I have to say that in the light of your update I'd be dragging my feet over that one.

Have they found your cheque? It would be worth a brief email on Monday asking. We've had the holidays and it's reasonable to expect people on both sides to be away and the post to be erratic. But a business should be expected to get themselves organised by now.

Not the same situation, but I had a dispute where my solicitor sent a letter and after a few weeks the other party sent a very aggressive letter saying we were out of time so therefore we'd lost.

He asked them, also quite aggressively, to look. They found it. Their excuse was it had ended up on the desk of someone who was on holiday and they didn't like to open her post.

Despite the fact that she was the person we'd been told to write to, they were expecting a response and the envelope was clearly marked with the name of the solicitors so you'd have guessed what it was about.

Some people try it on.

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