re MN campaigns

[coco44]

Ok well I'll probably get deleted but I just want to vent about some of the MN campaigns, which I find are very dogmatic and partial.
Firstly 'Pink stinks' .WEll I am all for letting all children have access to pink, blue, orange purple, dolls, tractors, prams , dinosaurs.But I don't think all children are blank slates.Female animals usually have different roles and tempeaments to males.Why shouldn't girls be allowed and encouraged to be pink and sparkly and feminine if that is what they want! why should they have to deny their nurturing instincts? But 'pink stinks' is just so scathing and dismisssive of what lots (not all) girls are!

secondly the 'we believe you' campaign.This really scares me Women should undoubtedly be always encouraged to tell and be listened to .But statistically well over half of us are parents of boys.
a woman could falsely accuse one of your sons ( or your DH) wreck their career, marriage, reputation, life , and everyone should just automatically believe the worst of your DC because he is a male.To hell with de, judge and jury! I think and hope the campaign is well meaning but terribly worded.A Fraisier Crane-esque 'WE are listening' would have been so much less sinister

Let girls be girls.More pontificating.You are not going to dress your own pre-teen dds in boob tubes and stillettos (and neither am I).But Stop imposing your views on others!!

Lots of people (deliberately?) missing the point
I am in favour of fairness and open mindedness.
If you guys were sitting on a jury, you would automatically believe one party over the other before the trial had even begun.That is exactly what you and the MN campaign is saying.

What exactly is wrong with not wanting girls to be stereotyped and limited? if you had bothered to read my OP you would know that I said that in my OP.
I do believe that overall there is a natural difference in temperament and instinct between males and females not explained by nurture.I can't believe people are arguing against that when every other mammal exhibits it!

I do actually believe in this campaign, I just think it needs to be worded differently

the 'we believe you' campaign that is!

Yes, your capacity to believe things does seem ... limited.

Nah, can't be bothered.

OP, you have massively missed the point of pink stinks,

Stop imposing your views on others!

is exactly what they are trying to say, pink is used to pigeon hole 50% of children into a role and the other 50% also have consequences because of it, with incredibly destructive consequences for all.

Over the last five years, Devon and Cornwall police force have shamefully chosen to give 544 perpetrators of sexual assaults and rapes police cautions, rather than prosecute,

What ever campaigns anyone is doing, it's not enough, because we are living with a system, that does not take sexual assault seriously.

If you disapprove of what others have done, would you share with us what you do to try and improve things for the next generations?

For what it's worth I think "let toys be toys" a far better slogan than "pink stinks".

There is a nice flowchart going round entitled "Is this toy for boys or girls?" The first box asks "Do you operate the toy with your genitals?" If yes, the answer is "this toy is not for boys or girls"; if no, the answer is "this toy is for boys and girls".

A toy is just a toy. When a 3yo has a concept of "that's a boy's toy" or "that's a girl's toy" before they really understand the physical difference between boys and girls, something unnecessary is happening.

And in a culture where rape victims are systematically scorned and disbelieved, I think We Believe You matters hugely. Yes there's a presumption of guilt, but only in the same way that when someone has been beaten up we have a presumption that an assault has happened, or that a burglary has happened when a householder reports a broken window and missing laptop. We aren't presuming that the defendant is guilty of the offence, merely that the offence occurred. Subtle difference but very important. Just bringing rape into line with other crimes.

why don't you tell pink stinks